War On Terror's Other Cost: Undeserved Anger At All Muslims

[Thomas Paine]

Originally Posted by Sigaba

MOO, it is a mistake of monumental proportions to assess the threat of radical Islam primarily upon perceived intentions. Capabilities matter.

IMO, many of the broad references being made in this thread to Nazism, the Second World War, and the Holocaust are historiographically sustainable only if one willfully ignores entirely the majority of research and debate over these topics that has occurred over the last forty or fifty years.

My $0.02.

It is a historiographically sustainable FACT that the Koran is more anti-semitic than Hitler's Mein Kampf.

http://www.cspipublishing.com

[Thomas Paine]

Originally Posted by MK262

LMAO.

I was indeed an LEO.

Long enough to put 3 strikers away for life and to ruin many a gangbanger's day.

From PM's I have received during this conversation, I've been informed that you suffered a tremendous loss on 9/11.

I'm sorry for that. I really am. You have my sympathies.

And it explains much of the hate and the anger. But the fact that I do not agree with you, does not make me your enemy. It just means my heart isn't filled with the hate that is in yours.

Who are you to judge a man's heart? Knock it off. You seem like a Troll of late.

As for my posts, I am unapologetic if I offended you or anyone else by calling a supremacist ideology founded by a pedophile just that. My namesake was a polemicist when necessary to help call this colony to action in order to defend her against an oppressive threat. And if that's what it takes to wake Americans up - to alert them to the threat, so be it.

Paul Revere warned "THE BRITISH ARE COMING!"

Let it never be said that I didn't warn that "SHARIA IS COMING!"

[T-Rock]

it explains much of the hate and the anger. But the fact that I do not agree with you, does not make me your enemy. It just means my heart isn't filled with the hate that is in yours.

This is what I don't get..., someone who accuses the "Kafir" of hatred in his heart, yet fails to recognize that Islamic ideology is full of hate, and under Sharia, it is a system of legally-mandated hatred. How can someone who objects to a supremacist ideology of hate be considered a hater by pointing out the hateful teachings, and legal system, of an evil ideology which condones the rape, torture, and murder of those unwilling to join the club of "Mo-Allah" ?

By pointing out and exposing the teachings of Sharia Law, which is legally mandated hatred - if anything,... those who do are anti-hatred...

If someone points out that Conservatives are for less Government, or that Liberals are for big Goverment, does this make one a hater by exposing an ideology?

Complacency on the part of the apologist can only serve Islam.


Islam deserves criticism on account of the logical consequences of its dogma, namely, that the murder of fellow human beings is to be rewarded with sensual pleasure in a hedonistic “Paradise”—a concept born in the fantasies of an Arab rebel some fourteen centuries ago. The religion of Mohammed is a dangerous system when the teachings and example of the “prophet” are believed and followed.
~Richard Dawkins~

[Thomas Paine]

Originally Posted by T-Rock

IMO, this is somewhat disingenuous - Leadership starts with liquid gold...,and the region where Islam was first revealed...

> http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=HXz0B_j9eHI
> http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=rdpCOaJuBx4

Let's be clear. Islam wasn't revealed. It was invented.

[Pete]

I asked you a question a while back and you blew it off. Why? Was the answer to difficult to find?

I had asked you a question about Islamic governments. Something along the lines of were they becoming more liberal (in the classic sense) or becoming more radical.

Is there a country with a Muslim majority where all religions and all people enjoy the same protection under the law? In this day and age why not?

In the majority of countries run by Muslims do people of other religions enjoy equal protection under the law as Muslims?

As the Muslim population grows in a country or the hard liners take over do the laws remain the same or are they screwed down on non-Muslims?

Do Muslims live in peace with their neighbors until they reach a certain % of the population and then as their population grows they become more radical. Any studies on this? Maybe Europe? But most of them are poor and live in gettos - not like the US? Any growing Muslim population centers in the US?

Pete

Islam, the sea in which the terrorist shark swims. It aids the shark and comforts it in it's journey. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.

[Penn]

Furthermore, I put more blame on the Germans and Japanese because they had a formal leadership that was responsible for their actions and for ensuring the safety of their people. No formal leadership exists in Islam to dictate and exert command authority over the Islamic world as a whole; to make the whole Islamic world responsible for the actions of a few seems totally unjust under such circumstances. The national command authorities of Germany and Japan had the will and legitimacy (well, in theory) to act on behalf of their people. Al-Queda and like groups can act on the behalf of no one but themselves.

Herein lies their brilliant strategy, and a clear path to denying them safe harbor in their muslim sea. MOO, only through prosecuting total war will there be peace.

Declaration of War

To all muslims.

As of today, August 6, 2010, with this Declaration of War, we will begin killing muslims with the same indiscriminate weapons, and ideology that muslims have chosen to employ worldwide.
We will kill anyone who supports you in any way.
We will kill muslims where ever we find them.
We will Kill you at work.
We will kill you in your homes.
We will kill you in your schools.
This means your children are considered combatants. We justify this targeting in response to the Beslan School Massacre. Knowing full well that muslims have no respect for human life, we will incorporate the same methods of destruction to muslim families.
We will kill you in your mosques.
We will give no quarter, we will not rest.

Annuit coeptis, Audemus Jura Nostra Defendere

Edit to add:In regard to this particular thread, I want to apologize to the board for my temperament.

[nmap]

The face of Islam: LINK

Who made the problem? Islamics.

Who is fixing the problem? The U.S.

My, my.

[olhamada]

Originally Posted by Thomas Paine

Let's be clear. Islam wasn't revealed. It was invented.

I strongly disagree. It was revealed. By Satan himself.

There is a deeper problem here that we're missing. This isn't simply a political and sociological problem. This is a spiritual problem. It is more than a physical war. It is a spiritual war.

[T-Rock]

Let's be clear. Islam wasn't revealed. It was invented.

My apologies I was sort of quoting the POTUS…

“I have known Islam on three continents….before coming to the region where it was first revealed. That experience guides my conviction”

> http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive.../06/023771.php

There is a deeper problem here that we're missing.

I’m an ardent admirer of Lieutenant General Boykin, he doesn’t beat around the bush…

[MK262]

Originally Posted by Penn

Herein lies their brilliant strategy, and a clear path to denying them safe harbor in their muslim sea. MOO, only through prosecuting total war will there be peace.

Declaration of War

To all muslims.

As of today, August 6, 2010, with this Declaration of War, we will begin killing muslims with the same indiscriminate weapons, and ideology that muslims have chosen to employ worldwide.
We will kill anyone who supports you in any way.
We will kill muslims where ever we find them.
We will Kill you at work.
We will kill you in your homes.
We will kill you in your schools.
This means your children are considered combatants. We justify this targeting in response to the Beslan School Massacre. Knowing full well that muslims have no respect for human life, we will incorporate the same methods of destruction to muslim families.
We will kill you in your mosques.
We will give no quarter, we will not rest.

Annuit coeptis, Audemus Jura Nostra Defendere

Edit to add:In regard to this particular thread, I want to apologize to the board for my temperament.

This is going to be my last post in this thread, because I'm honestly wasting my time and my efforts trying to serve as a counter point to this kind of insanity.

I just wanted to point out that what Penn wrote above is absolutely evil, and I hope he gets help.

Targeting Children???? Yeah.... you go sign back up and put a uniform on for that one. Let's see if you can take an M240 and mow down a couple schools worth of Muslim kids.

This has become some kind of sick joke. I don't know if you're being serious or just trying to provoke a reaction. If you are serious, you have lost your soul and your humanity.

I'm going to go back to doing what I came here for, reading and learning about the military and SF. I leave the Holy War to those who are so inclined.

[Pete]

Originally Posted by MK262

....Targeting Children???? Yeah....

Once again ducked my questions. Oh,well..

By the way its the Muslims who like to target children - even their own if it advances Islam.

Not too many parents in the west are proud all their kids grew up to be suicide bombers.

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by MK262

This is going to be my last post in this thread, because I'm honestly wasting my time and my efforts trying to serve as a counter point to this kind of insanity.

I just wanted to point out that what Penn wrote above is absolutely evil, and I hope he gets help.

Targeting Children???? Yeah.... you go sign back up and put a uniform on for that one. Let's see if you can take an M240 and mow down a couple schools worth of Muslim kids.

This has become some kind of sick joke. I don't know if you're being serious or just trying to provoke a reaction. If you are serious, you have lost your soul and your humanity.

I'm going to go back to doing what I came here for, reading and learning about the military and SF. I leave the Holy War to those who are so inclined.

Penn was making a point, one which you clearly missed.

I take it you would not be party to a group/tribe that employed such violent means?

Most "civilized" humans would agree with you, well all except muslims.

The muslims of the world have yet to speak as one and denounce such violent acts against humanity, they will continue to use children as weapons, use the mentally challenged as bombs and deliberately target children. And to what end? Is the western world denying them their religion? No. They wish to dominate the world through violent means, and in this ideology, islam, the end justifies the means.

Please explain to me how could any half intelligent human being justify the deliberate attack on school children?

Chechen terrorists are muslims, they deliberately killed 300 children. For what, Freedom?

As a warrior, if my leaders told me to deliberately target and kill children, any children, I would kill them (my leaders) where they stood.

In a civilized society the end does not justify the means.

Tell me, where do you as an individual draw the line?

Team Sergeant

[Todd 1]

Originally Posted by MK262

Targeting children???? Yeah...

The religion of peace.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=favzl...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rT_jm0pW6c

[T-Rock]

The religion of peace.

Targeting children????

…and exploiting them….sickening…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jrCyWDdSN8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPU4UN03t7E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU9SsB-P84c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg1EYKg12Pc
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...6422368&hl=da#

Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme. (Sura 9:111)


You who believe, shall I show you a bargain that will save you from painful punishment? 11 Have faith in God and His Messenger and struggle [j-h-d] for His cause with your possessions and your persons—that is better for you, if only you knew—12 and He will forgive your sins, admit you into Gardens graced with flowing streams, into pleasant dwellings in the Gardens of Eternity. That is the supreme triumph (61:10)

[Richard]

"Just give me that olde tyme religion..."
Richard