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Old 11-05-2009, 23:25   #121
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The fallen --> RIP and peace to your families.
The wounded --> Speedy recovery and strength to your families.
POTUS --> There is not a word in English to describe your actions today. I might need to learn Indo Bahasa.
Wolf Blitzer and his "alleged shooter" --> WTF??
Cousin of Hasan --> Maybe we can show you what "good Americans" do to delusional people like you?
Mr Hasan himself --> How does it feel to know a FEMALE INFIDEL took you down? The horror! The shame! Eternal loser, you'll get yours.

CNN showing video of shooter Hasan in traditional arabic robe this morning (6:30am) at local convenience store. Buying coffee, chatting, ho hum, what a great morning, I'm about to shoot 50 people in the name of Allah.
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Old 11-05-2009, 23:26   #122
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RIP to all the fallen.

Second this:
I vote we wrap him in pig skin, smeared in pig blood, and place him in the sun for the rest of his "natural life".
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Old 11-05-2009, 23:31   #123
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Of all the things The PRESIDENT of the United States of America should get right, this should be near the top of the list.
FWIW, I agree. Especially if the president says (source is here):
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There are many honors and privileges bestowed on the occupant of this house, but few mean as much to me as the chance to award America's highest civilian medal to the recipients that are here today. This is a chance for me -- and for the United States of America -- to say thank you to some of the finest citizens of this country, and of all countries.

The men and women we honor today have led very different lives and pursued very different careers. They're pioneers in science and medicine. They're gifted artists and indomitable athletes. They have made their mark in the courtroom, in the community, and in Congress. And what unites them is a belief -- that most -- forgive me to those of you who are not Americans -- but what we consider to be that most American of beliefs -- that our lives are what we make of them; that no barriers of race, gender, or physical infirmity can restrain the human spirit; and that the truest test of a person's life is what we do for one another.

The recipients of the Medal of Freedom did not set out to win this or any other award. They did not set out in pursuit of glory or fame or riches. Rather, they set out, guided by passion, committed to hard work, aided by persistence, often with few advantages but the gifts, grace, and good name God gave them.

So, let them stand as an example here in the United States -- and around the world -- of what we can achieve in our own lives. Let them stand as an example of the difference we can make in the lives of others. Let each of their stories stand as an example of a life well lived.

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Born just a generation past the Battle of the Little Big Horn, a grandson of a scout for General Custer himself, Dr. Joseph Medicine Crow was the first member of his tribe to attend college and earn a Master's. Before completing his PhD, he left to serve in World War II. Wearing war paint beneath his uniform, and a sacred feather beneath his helmet, Joseph Medicine Crow completed the four battlefield deeds that made him the last Crow war chief. Historian, educator, and patriot -- a good man, a bacheitche in Crow -- Dr. Medicine Crow's life reflects not only the warrior spirit of the Crow people, but America's highest ideals.

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Joseph Medicine Crow. (Applause.)

As a warrior and living legend, history flows through Dr. Joseph Medicine Crow -- High Bird. Born on a reservation and raised by traditional grandparents, he became the first member of his tribe to earn a Master's degree. For his valiant service in World War II, he was awarded the status of Crow War Chief, and his renowned studies of the first Americans and contributions to cultural and historical preservation have been critical to our understanding of America's history. Joe Medicine Crow is a symbol of strength and survival, and the United States honors him for his dedication to this country and to all Native Americans.
Maybe the day will come when the president understands that words are more than what one reads off of a teleprompter. Maybe the day will come when he means what he says.
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Old 11-05-2009, 23:58   #124
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Our comments here do not diminish what Dr. Joseph Medicine Crow has done.

My shop has been blessed by an elder from the Crow Nation who also served honorably with the United States Army. Several members here know who this is.

I will not start a war with the Crow Nation.
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Old 11-06-2009, 00:00   #125
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According to his cousin, Nader Hasan, Malik Nadal Hasan (the jihadi shooter) is a "good American, has always been a muslim and was born and raised here" [The United States].

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video0...w.foxnews.com/
One of the things the worthless mainstream media will not report on is the fact that Muslims following jihad lie. All the time. It is a part of their mindset; the Koran is an instruction manual for being a fifth column. Be peaceable when your enemies are powerful, infiltrate their weaknesses, attack in strength when you have the upper hand. Mohammed was a revolutionary; is this so surprising?

You will constantly hear about how someone is a "good Muslim". That is a RED FLAG. A good Muslim serves Allah, and does so by lying to, forcing into submission, and killing anyone who does not worship him.

So yes, I'm sure Maj. Hasan is a "good Muslim". I'm sure radical Islamists also are mourning the fact that he did not die. But for different reasons than that of those on this board.
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Old 11-06-2009, 00:27   #126
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Sincere condolences to friends and family of those killed.

A speedy and complete recovery to those wounded.

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Concur... my thoughts... and feelings exactly...
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Old 11-06-2009, 00:45   #127
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Condolence to the family and friends of lost ones. Speedy recovery to the wounded.
Requiem aeternam for those who lost their lives, may the pearly gates welcome you and grant you eternal peace.
Prayers sent.

PC aside, I worry for the repercussion/2nd and 3rd order impacts of this 1st degree murder. How many muslims are serving in the US military? Are there any muslims in SEALs, SF, CCT, Force Recon, or any SOCOM personnel with secret and top secret clearance? What then?

In a way, I can empathize with non-devout (bad) muslims who just want to live their life and raise their kids in this country. If and when they are picked on horrendously, they just may turn into devout (good) muslims and finally find reasons in joining their jihadis brethren.
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Old 11-06-2009, 01:10   #128
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Sincere condolences to friends and family of those killed.

A speedy and complete recovery to those wounded.

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Ditto.

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Additional news item that may be of interest!:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting
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Old 11-06-2009, 01:37   #129
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Local radio here is reporting that Hasan was shot by a female security officer, who herself was wounded. The only mention of her that I can find is here:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...chiatrist-acc/
"....Initial information that a female civilian police officer who had shot Maj. Hasan was also killed similarly turned out not to be the case, Gen. Cone said. That officer also survived the attack, he said...."



This woman is a national hero.
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Old 11-06-2009, 01:42   #130
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Just heard little Andy Cooper on CNN say that this SOB wasn't happy about upcoming deployment. So it's okay for the military to pay for your education, etc... but when it's time to pay your dues and do your duty you go and kill others?? Christ... he wasn't signing up for a library card... it was the US Army. You are expected to serve. You know what you are getting into. Hell... go run away to Canada if you are that adverse to service. My gut says this was planned and had nothing what so ever to do with deployment. There is more to this story and the MSM is too afraid and politically correct to scratch the surface and tell the truth. What a surprise!!
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Old 11-06-2009, 02:04   #131
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Convenience store surveillance video taken the morning of the shooting shows Major Hasan wearing a man-dress:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOeXzamxSk8

(Sorry it's CNN; I can't stand Anderson Cooper, but they're the only place that seems to have this video right now.)
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Old 11-06-2009, 02:56   #132
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Saw this on the CBS evening news. Such a terrible tragedy.

RIP to those who were killed and a speedy recovery to the injured.
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:43   #133
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I vote for removing every follower of islam from the Armed services,at least while a wars in Islamic countries are ongoing. If I were President, I would send every muslim, or everyone claiming Islam as their religion to a muslim country,around their fellow,"peaceful" muslims. Then, I would put up a damn fence,and restrict entry-the "melting pot" is full-go somewhere else.

During WWII,Japaneese living in the U.S. were rounded up and "relocated" for the duration of the war,while Japaneese Americans served honorably in our forces-they were not of a religion of radicalism. Why can this not be done now,knowing this crap will just continue?

And PTSD is a conveniant excuse,and a catch-all.It used to be, in order to have "shell shock",or now,PTSD, you actually had to BE in combat. How can sitting in a air conditioned office eating 3 meals a day at the mess hall lead to PTSD?!?
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:53   #134
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How things change - in my time people merely shot themselves (the Med Hold Companies at Fort Sam Houston were full of self-inflicted wounds to avoid Vietnam when I was going through 300F-1) or fled to Canada/Sweden to avoid such deployments - a shame this guy lacked the fortitude to shoot only himself.

وذلك للأسف يذهب...

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Old 11-06-2009, 06:50   #135
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