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Old 07-30-2016, 10:36   #106
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besides being humbled by that family's sacrifice I don't think there is any possible dignified response from the Trump campaign.
Of course there is...and I've already seen that same tact taken by our Pravda media...Trump has said that any Muslim wishing to do us harm or not willing to assimilate is not welcome and his plan is to actively screen them out from coming into our country.

Captain Humayun Khan is a Patriot, but the Father (family) is sorely misled in thinking that the communist-demo-rat party stands for the America, and her Constitution, that their son served so faithfully.
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Old 07-30-2016, 10:45   #107
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For the most part my $.02 , the DNC was an exercise in smug ignorance, and Hillary is just an incompetent, infuriating, entitled, twit who couldn't lead a horse to water.

However, Khizr Khan's speech struck a chord, besides being humbled by that family's sacrifice I don't think there is any possible dignified response from the Trump campaign.

That is a true American family in my book.
All of this nations sacrifices in war are far greater than any one man, woman or child of another family. If we respect all and leave religion and immigrant status out of the equation their loss is no greater nor more exceptional to the loss of all.

To honor their sacrifice we should as a nation should finish what they started and gave up all for. I don't believe for a second Hill-A-Ry is that person.

The DNC for the most part was a disgrace to those who make sacrifices everyday.
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Old 07-30-2016, 10:49   #108
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. For the most part my $.02 , the DNC was an exercise in smug ignorance, and Hillary is just an incompetent, infuriating, entitled, twit who couldn't lead a horse to water.

However, Khizr Khan's speech struck a chord, besides being humbled by that family's sacrifice I don't think there is any possible dignified response from the Trump campaign.

That is a true American family in my book.
Khan's speech was nothing but Taqiyya. Rather than blaming Trump for their sons death, they should've renounced the Islamic jihadists who blew their son up.
Nevertheless, with typical convoluted liberal logic, the Muslim man whose son was killed by radical Muslims in a war Trump opposed and Hillary voted for, bashed Trump for wanting to protect America from radical Muslims. Khan refused to condemn Islam.
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Old 07-30-2016, 11:50   #109
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Khan's speech was nothing but Taqiyya. Rather than blaming Trump for their sons death, they should've renounced the Islamic jihadists who blew their son up.
Nevertheless, with typical convoluted liberal logic, the Muslim man whose son was killed by radical Muslims in a war Trump opposed and Hillary voted for, bashed Trump for wanting to protect America from radical Muslims. Khan refused to condemn Islam.
Agree.

Muzzies don't blame muzzies or islam, especially when it's much healthier to blame the West.

Khizr Khan is nothing but a tool in the DNC's war chest.
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Old 07-30-2016, 20:34   #110
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Trump has said that any Muslim wishing to do us harm or not willing to assimilate is not welcome and his plan is to actively screen them out from coming into our country.
Trump has said a lot of things, If you recall back in December his campaign put out from his own campaign website (Link enclosed)

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​DONALD J. TRUMP STATEMENT ON PREVENTING MUSLIM IMMIGRATION

(New York, NY) December 7th, 2015, -- Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.




https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-r...im-immigration

So while political expediency may have subsequently required a softer iteration, the above blanket statement is hard to misinterpret.

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I agree with everything in your post. I don't think anyone should vote for Hillary, nor do I think for a second she gives a rat's ass about Capt. Khan or anyone else in our Military or Republic. As you said our nation collectively has made great sacrifice in defense of freedom, and we should finish the job and be worthy

At the same time we are living in a society where 90% of the population has no idea what a gold star banner in a window means. I do think the context of Capt. Khan's story is relevant since such a patriot would have been disparately impacted by such a blanket ban, and the country would have suffered for it.

Historically, we lost hundreds of thousands of good men in the second world war. They came from every segment of American society. On a human level I think it would have been a tougher pill to swallow to go fight for a country as the Nisei soldier of regiments like the 442nd did while their families were interned by that same nation. As a nation it was not one of our better moments. The Germans were the greater military threat and German Americans could blend in and sabotage much easier than Japanese Americans. Though if we had interned every German or Italian American family as well we might not have been able to field an army at all.

In our time, in the wake of 9/11 there have been repeated calls for Muslims to stand up and denounce radical Islam in voice and deed. This is a valid and necessary course of action. Capt. Khan's story was a shining example of an American, who happened to be a Muslim, do just that, step up and give his life for his country, and it illuminates the flaws in the blanket type statement Mr. Trump favors. In light of his son's service and sacrifice I don't think it's a stretch for any Gold Star father to take offense and want to speak out in response to Trump's proposed policies in that regard, nor do I think its an unreasonable question for him to ask Trump for all his boasts and promises "What have you sacrificed for our country" in comparison, particularly in light of Trump's draft dodging during the Vietnam War. To me that speech and the statements from families of fallen LE were the only meaningful things out of the entire DNC.

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I couldn't disagree more, that Gold Star father was no more spouting Taqiyya than Taco Bell, nor was he blaming Trump for his son's death in any way. They likely came here fleeing that same brand of tyranny his son died fighting. He was taking Trump to task for proposed policies which in effect would have prevented someone like Capt. Khan from being here to serve in the first place.
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So Trumps "draft dodging" is somewhat more relevant than W.J.Clinton's "draft dodging" or that Hillary claims she once tried to join the National Guard but was denied for medical reasons, age (27) and eyesight? (Can you say check the box?)

Two things are becoming very evident here. Bill Clinton was (possibly) the first ever convicted felon and pardoned for his crime elected president and his wife (probably should be convicted felon) may become our next president. Trump has run a shady business and played within the laws of bankruptcy but to the best of my knowledge he's not a criminal.

Look I don't like either one but we have long ago forgone the necessity to have a president who served in the armed forces. The last decent one who truly sacrificed for his fellow men and country was JFK.
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Hillary claims she once tried to join the National Guard but was denied for medical reasons, age (27) and eyesight? (Can you say check the box?)
Marines: Hillary Clinton’s claim that she tried to join the Marines

Well, they said that they were looking for a "Few Good Men".

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Marines: Hillary Clinton’s claim that she tried to join the Marines

Well, they said that they were looking for a "Few Good Men".

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Maybe it was. The important thing is, she "tried!" I'm guessing that not winning that "participation" trophy helped her get though law school or had she already gotten a law degree?

Well, let's look at that. She graduated from Wellesley in '69 and then J.D. Law degree from Yale in '73 so those must have been a couple bad years to think about joining the Marines or become the wife of the up and coming Attorney General for the state of Arkansas.
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but the Father (family) is sorely misled in thinking that the communist-demo-rat party stands for the America, and her Constitution, that their son served so faithfully.
Or he (they) could be practicing Taqiyya and/or following the in lock step with Obama and Hillary's buddies CAIR and the Muslim Broterhood.

As we have seen in the past months and years Muslims can live peaceful, unassuming lives here in the US for months and years and then at a moments notice they shoot up a bunch of people. Or do suspect stuff like Clock Boy.
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I couldn't disagree more, that Gold Star father was no more spouting Taqiyya than Taco Bell, nor was he blaming Trump for his son's death in any way. They likely came here fleeing that same brand of tyranny his son died fighting. He was taking Trump to task for proposed policies which in effect would have prevented someone like Capt. Khan from being here to serve in the first place.
So what if CPT Khan wasn't here to serve? Are we supposed to think that no one else would step up to the plate? Or, maybe after TEMPORARILY banning immigration of muslims from shithole countries...there would have been a 2LT Khan getting killed.

This is all just smoke and mirrors. Playing to "feelings" to avoid facing the facts. Sad to see individuals who are obviously proud of their son getting used as pawns.
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I believe that Khan, translates into Sheehan in "New Speak" ...
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Might be again time to review any Federal funding NPR might be getting, after a few days of being absolutely baffled by B&E's speeches they have fired up the incergency propaganda machine on full blast, they must have come away with the message that the irrelevant is relevant.

Another thing that no one seems to report is H couldn't even keep National Security information secure so how was the DNC going to do that either? Obviously that's Trumps fault too... Or the Russians....or the man on the moon. Ludacris that tribes from the third world do a better job!
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Or he (they) could be practicing Taqiyya and/or following the in lock step with Obama and Hillary's buddies CAIR and the Muslim Broterhood.

As we have seen in the past months and years Muslims can live peaceful, unassuming lives here in the US for months and years and then at a moments notice they shoot up a bunch of people. Or do suspect stuff like Clock Boy.
Well if Taqiyya was their plan, in this particular families case there would likely be more efficient ways than:

"Hey let's emigrate to America during the Vietnam and the Cold War and fully assimilate and then have our patriotic son volunteer for service and earn a commission in the US Army and go to war, and while in theater win the BSM and die telling his troops to stay back while he checked out a truck with an IED. Since we obviously knew back in 1974 that 9/11 , Zero and the Hildabeast were in the future, and so you know we then can credibly bash Donald Trump at the DNC in 2016, because he will be running for president on the Republican ticket then. Which we know is hard to believe because the Democrat asshat is currently running around NYC equating the risks of his sexual exploits in NYC to the risk of infantry combat in Vietnam."

1) If this was their plan, it was one hell of a plan.

2) The Clinton's draft dodging, treachery, Mogadishu, failure to kill UBL when they could have and Bengazhi are more reprehensible than anything Trump has done.

3) Paslode they have this stuff called Decaffeinated coffee.
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Old 07-31-2016, 09:54   #119
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Trump has said a lot of things, If you recall back in December his campaign put out from his own campaign website (Link enclosed)

- DECEMBER 07, 2015 -

​DONALD J. TRUMP STATEMENT ON PREVENTING MUSLIM IMMIGRATION

(New York, NY) December 7th, 2015, -- Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.




https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-r...im-immigration

So while political expediency may have subsequently required a softer iteration, the above blanket statement is hard to misinterpret.
The intent is too say, "how can DJT square his non-citizen temporary ban on Muslim immigration with the example of the Khan family?".

I get it, akv. So do others.

You're leaving out a glaring piece of recent history...and it's curious.

At the time of the Khan family ocean jump, we had not suffered nearly a dozen domestic terrorist attacks in recent years, with over 100 dead American bodies on the floor, carried out by followers of the Muslim faith.

The situation has changed, and Trump is right, that the new situation must be assessed, and measures taken, to prevent the situation from continuing.

The elder Khan should know this, instead he has chosen to serve the role as 'puppet' in furtherance of the greatest enemy our country faces (and their goals)...the GDC's.

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3) Paslode they have this stuff called Decaffeinated coffee.
I do not consume caffeine of any type.

Back to your point.....


Well if you go back to that chart on percentages TS put up a few months back, the more muslim in a country, the more trouble they become. The percentage of muslims and mosques in the US has skyrocketed since the Vietnam and the Cold War, especially over the past 10-15 years.

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http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...nothing-islam/




Papa Khzir is making the rounds of a Liberal Jihadi Hack.
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