11-17-2014, 13:56
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"Mark Owen" Sues Ex-attorneys
This is about 1.5 weeks old. In light of The Shooter going public, I thought I'd share. I find irony in his opinion that it was his attorneys who tarnished his reputation and not his actions.
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A former Navy SEAL who wrote a book describing the raid that killed Osama bin Laden sued his former lawyers Wednesday for malpractice, saying they gave him bad advice that tarnished his reputation, cost him his U.S. security clearance and caused him to surrender much of the book's income to the government.
Using the pseudonym "Mark Owen" that he published the book under, Matt Bissonnette filed the lawsuit in federal court in Manhattan. His 2012 book, "No Easy Day," prompted a Pentagon inquiry that evolved into a criminal probe by the Justice Department.
Bissonnette seeks unspecified compensatory damages, saying his losses will amount to at least $8 million after he agreed to surrender most of the book's proceeds. He said he also will lose consulting jobs, speaking engagements and future employment.
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11-17-2014, 15:10
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He said he also will lose consulting jobs, speaking engagements and future employment.
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Isn't that what 'scruff-face' said? Unfortunately that argument has legs now.
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11-17-2014, 18:26
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Originally Posted by DIYPatriot
This is about 1.5 weeks old. In light of The Shooter going public, I thought I'd share. I find irony in his opinion that it was his attorneys who tarnished his reputation and not his actions.
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He is definitely trying to get paid no matter what.
Haven't read the book but have heard his interviews this guy wanted center stage for a supposedly humble guy in the book he seems to really want to be seen and known. But then again since Eric Haney wrote his book the tell all generation of soldiers since then have flourished. God knows plenty of QP's are seeking attention for every other mission.
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11-18-2014, 01:53
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I listened to No Easy Day as an audiobook. I was aware that there was controversy about it but didn't read much into it. Then I finished the whole book felt a little regret by purchasing it over better military books with better stories and no OPSEC violations.
As a civilian, I believe this book gave me sensitive information about how Seal Team 6 operates. I felt a little uncomfortable listening to certain parts of the book like going over verbal commands during practice raids and exposing the rules of engagement on handling UBL.
I think Mark Owen was also the guy who narrated all those video game trailers for the Medal of Honor game that revealed WAY too many details on how they operate. In those videos (which I will not link) Seal Team 6 guys revealed breaching options, where their sniper usually is, and infiltration methods. Hell, if I'm a terrorist and I'm lucky enough to spot their group before they spot me, I know who the team leader is now just by watching ST6 demonstrate on a YouTube video!
As interesting as this possibly classified information is, I will not listen or read into stuff like that anymore. By doing so I think I'm supporting and encouraging more OPSEC violations. I'm also getting annoyed by how arrogant some of these guys are. According to them in those dumb videos, only the "assaulters" who enter the rooms first in the ST6 team are the real deal. So I guess being in the U.S. military, being in S.O.F., being a SEAL, and being in DEVGRU isn't bad ass enough. Now they must separate themselves from the rest of THAT group. What's next, are the "assaulters" themselves going to be lone wolves and take all the credit for their team accomplishments? Oh wait...
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11-18-2014, 07:19
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I'm also getting annoyed by how arrogant some of these guys are. According to them in those dumb videos, only the "assaulters" who enter the rooms first in the ST6 team are the real deal. So I guess being in the U.S. military, being in S.O.F., being a SEAL, and being in DEVGRU isn't bad ass enough. Now they must separate themselves from the rest of THAT group. What's next, are the "assaulters" themselves going to be lone wolves and take all the credit for their team accomplishments? Oh wait...

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All the lives lost all the groundwork, all the relationship building and intelligence gathering and all the battles that he was was not a part of. The operation itself was but a fraction of all the work that went into setting the stage to allow UBL to be killed, the mission only happened because of the work that went into.
To me when I see a high profile mission succeed I think of the hard work, missions, battles, endless hours of training given, the endless hours of rapport building and all the ingredients to set the climate it took to get to that one mission. Can you imagine people building a house from scratch and then after all the work and headaches one guy pounds the last nail into it and takes the credit.
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11-18-2014, 07:56
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Can you imagine people building a house from scratch and then after all the work and headaches one guy pounds the last nail into it and takes the credit.
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That's a great analogy.
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11-19-2014, 07:20
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To paraphrase SSG Sal Giunta, I worry about this gentleman and I wish him peace.
That being said...
Far better men than Mr Bissonnette and Mr O'Neil have pinned on tridents and waded into harms way on behalf of the USA and her national interests.
Far better men than Mr Bissonnette and Mr O'Neil have donned their beret (whatever color your favorite beret might be) and left the wire to deliver Americas wrath to those who would do us harm
Far better men than Mr Bissonnette and Mr O'Neil have stepped forward to defend the nation against tyranny and evil.
Far better men have done their duty and accepted their fates without loosing sight of the fact that the nature of military service is "to serve". It saddens me that these men will never feel the true reward of serving for a cause. Instead, these men have turned themselves into little more than mercenaries in uniform that have demonstrated that they espouse the feeling that "we the people" owe them something extra for their service.
Good luck securing whatever you feel is your "fee" for serving our nation.
I hope the final price of your efforts is worth the honor that you have surrendered in your pursuit of treasure.
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11-19-2014, 08:16
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I'm also getting annoyed by how arrogant some of these guys are. According to them in those dumb videos, only the "assaulters" who enter the rooms first in the ST6 team are the real deal. So I guess being in the U.S. military, being in S.O.F., being a SEAL, and being in DEVGRU isn't bad ass enough. Now they must separate themselves from the rest of THAT group. What's next, are the "assaulters" themselves going to be lone wolves and take all the credit for their team accomplishments? Oh wait...

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Originally Posted by WarriorDiplomat
All the lives lost all the groundwork, all the relationship building and intelligence gathering and all the battles that he was was not a part of. The operation itself was but a fraction of all the work that went into setting the stage to allow UBL to be killed, the mission only happened because of the work that went into.
To me when I see a high profile mission succeed I think of the hard work, missions, battles, endless hours of training given, the endless hours of rapport building and all the ingredients to set the climate it took to get to that one mission. Can you imagine people building a house from scratch and then after all the work and headaches one guy pounds the last nail into it and takes the credit.
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A lot of folks were involved perhaps going back as far as the 80's and it didn't occur to them to go ahead and plant the me flag as it was understood that would be counterproductive.
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11-19-2014, 15:21
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