Redneck/SF Engineering - Page 8

lksteve · 02-22-2005, 14:51

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer

Havasu? LOL

or Mead...or Powell...

ktek01 · 02-23-2005, 10:22

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Originally Posted by Ambush Master

Now, back to the "Hard to start" topic. You hit the ignition switch and only get solenoid chatter. Voltage is good, battery fully charged, but only chatters, even when "jumpered". Get a hammer, chock, brick,etc. and give the Starter Motor a couple of good "Raps" close to the brush end. This will usually allow the worn out brushes to get better seated against the commutator and is good for at least one more good start.

This procedure was actually spelled out in the Shorts-330 Aircraft Maintenance Manual. The Irishmen referred to it as "Malletizing" the Starter.

Later
Martin

Works for stuck electric power window motors too. Give the inside door panel a good slap near the motor with the palm of your hand.

**Jack Moroney (RIP)** · 02-23-2005, 11:38

About the "hard to start" topic. While I hate to admit this, most times when dealing with things other than automobiles like snow blowers, chain saws, lawn tractors and the like, the best thing that works for me is when my wife brings me my glasses and the instruction booklet. If you don't have a Team Sergeant to keep you straight, got to have a wife.

Jack Moroney

Gypsy · 02-23-2005, 12:01

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Originally Posted by ktek01

Works for stuck electric power window motors too. Give the inside door panel a good slap near the motor with the palm of your hand.

Until you have to replace the switch. Of course that always occurrs at the most *opportune* time. You know, while it is pouring rain/sleeting and the damn thing is stuck in the "down" postion.

**Bill Harsey** · 02-23-2005, 16:38

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Originally Posted by Jack Moroney

About the "hard to start" topic. While I hate to admit this, most times when dealing with things other than automobiles like snow blowers, chain saws, lawn tractors and the like, the best thing that works for me is when my wife brings me my glasses and the instruction booklet. If you don't have a Team Sergeant to keep you straight, got to have a wife.

Jack Moroney

We can get instruction booklets for stuff?

lksteve · 02-23-2005, 16:39

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Originally Posted by Bill Harsey

We can get instruction booklets for stuff?

no...but your wife will remember where she put them...

**The Reaper** · 02-26-2005, 15:15

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Originally Posted by Jack Moroney

About the "hard to start" topic. While I hate to admit this, most times when dealing with things other than automobiles like snow blowers, chain saws, lawn tractors and the like, the best thing that works for me is when my wife brings me my glasses and the instruction booklet. If you don't have a Team Sergeant to keep you straight, got to have a wife.

Jack Moroney

I thought you were going to mention the can of ether starting fluid.

Any spark at all and that thing will turn over a couple of times before dying.

TR

**Pete** · 02-26-2005, 15:25

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Originally Posted by The Reaper

I thought you were going to mention the can of ether starting fluid.

Ahhh, fond memories of cold winter mornings on Ft Bragg. Up at TMP with a cold-hearted 45 Pax bus. Spraying the ether into the air intake and running like hell to the front, jump inside to the driver's seat and hit the start button. Keep repeating until the dog fired up.

Pete

lksteve · 02-26-2005, 16:36

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Originally Posted by Pete

Ahhh, fond memories of cold winter mornings on Ft Bragg. ..Spraying the ether into the air intake and running like hell to the front, jump inside to the driver's seat and hit the start button.

#1...having been stationed at Devens, Bad Toelz and Fort Wainwright, we could argue the 'cold' winter mornings....but i won't....

#2...i once owned a small ranch in SW Colorado with no water, but two 1500 gallon cisterns and a 2 1/2 ton truck with a 750 gallon tank...winter temperatures on the Colorado plateau are commonly in the single digits at water hauling time (the truck was not legally registered, so the sheriff preferred it if folks did their water hauling in the AM....he was looking for deniability)...the trick is to spray alot of ether into the air intake...to the point that you get droplets of ether...then you casually hop in the truck (leaving the door part way open for escape) and fire that mother up....it is a good idea to leave the hood up, too....confined explosions and all that, you know...
i averaged one can per week and it always fired by the second time....

a side note, i was glad to spend $3K for a water tap and another $1.5K to dig a trench 600' long and not have to do that every week....

vsvo · 02-26-2005, 22:48

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Originally Posted by lksteve

...leaving the door part way open for escape...it is a good idea to leave the hood up, too....confined explosions and all that, you know...

Damn! I had a U-Haul diesel fail to restart after a fillup once (no, I didn't put gas in it

). After calling U-Haul "emergency roadside service," I sat and waited and waited. A tanker truck was refilling the station's pumps. After the driver was done he came over and asked what was wrong. I told him the truck wouldn't start. He walked back to his truck without a word, came back with a can of ether, pulled off the intake hose, and gave it a good long shot. Obviously he knew what he was doing because I stood by the fookin' hood while he jumped in the cab to crank that bad boy up. It started immediately.

**Bill Harsey** · 02-27-2005, 07:52

Ether can be very bad on the life of an engine.
When you use it, it "cuts" the oil off the rings and causes wear.

I don't think the modern spray starting fluids contain ether anymore.

In the old days once in a while, someone would get in the logging crew bus at O-dark thirty and step on something with a caulked (spiked) boot. When you heard the hissing sound of the punctured ether can it was time to throw that sucker out the window before the good stuff reached the guy with the lit cigarette.

**The Reaper** · 02-27-2005, 09:28

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Originally Posted by Bill Harsey

In the old days once in a while, someone would get in the logging crew bus at O-dark thirty and step on something with a caulked (spiked) boot. When you heard the hissing sound of the punctured ether can it was time to throw that sucker out the window before the good stuff reached the guy with the lit cigarette.

Or you could throw the cigarette out, roll up the windows, and see what happens with large men in a closely packed truck full of ether.

Sounds like a great HST story to me. As your Samoan attorney, I recommend that you collect all of the firearms and lock them up first.

I have used WD-40 to start small engines the same way. Never tried it on a four-wheeled vehicle, but I suspect that it would work.

TR

boat guy · 03-03-2005, 09:49

WD 40 is definitely and easy way to start a small engine. There is another way that I have found useful in the absence of anything aerosol, especially for chainsaws. Pop the spark plug out and dip the business end into the fuel tank, reinsert and give it a pull.

**Bill Harsey** · 03-03-2005, 09:56

Good posts with the WD-40.
Boat Guy, I like the simple method of just dipping the end of the spark plug in the fuel tank for the right amount of gas.

If there is no gas in the tank that could also be a clue to the starting problem.

Once I watched a friend of mine, a great mechanic, rebuild the carburator to his muscle car because of a fuel flow problem. Yep, you guessed it. He was simply out of gas.

Spartan359 · 04-02-2005, 00:35

Once upon a time on board the U.S.S. Kitty Hawk I was a lowly fireman (E-3) and was on sounding a security watch. A truly boring watch. About half way into my watch I recieved a call on my radio that there was a potable water pipe leaking in the VFA-27 berthing (a squadron). So I trot to the berthing to find this pipe spraying water everywhere. I looked for the valves to secure the water but alas couldn't find the damn things. Now I'm pissed off and soaked. The whole time the repair desk was asking the status of the leak and if he should call it away as a flood. I told him I could handle it. So I leave the berthing only to raid one of the local repair lockers for a soft patch kit. A soft patch consists of a piece of rubber material and marlin (string). All you do is place the piece of rubber over the crack/hole and then start wrapping the marlin around the rubber on the pipe. After ripping the locker apart for the kit I said to hell with it, grabbed some marlin and went back down to the berthing. After deciding to get wet again I pulled out a condom from my wallet and wraped it around the crack in the pipe and tied it off. Then proceeded to wrap the marlin firmly around the pipe. To my amazement it worked. To this day that condom is still wraped around that damn pipe. Did I mention it was a female berthing?