11-05-2009, 20:59
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Actually 9mm, crowded area, over penetration and you get a kill and several wounds with each shot. I would not attribute too much to his skill as the shock factor and the rounds ability to strike multiple subjects.
I vote we wrap him in pig skin, smeared in pig blood, and place him in the sun for the rest of his "natural life".
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11-05-2009, 21:26
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#107
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Clealy allah protected him so he could tell his story... WTF!?
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11-05-2009, 21:32
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#108
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Originally Posted by Chris Cram
Lethal Injection awaits... That seems to pleasant an end for this one.
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Maybe.
10-15 years from now. After millions spent on appeals, trials, and his defense.
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11-05-2009, 21:40
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Originally Posted by Warrior-Mentor
Shooter's cousin is on FOX News now...
Saying shooter "is a good American..."
"His colleagues harassed him...that's why this happened."
Cousin's name is Nadar Hassan.
Said that shooter has always been a Muslim.
SHOOTER NEVER DEPLOYED.
Cousin cut off the interview in the middle of a question. "I have to go."
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I'm praying for them to have strength as well as those those who are wounded, their families and the families of the fallen. I can honestly echo nearly every single sentiment said in this thread, I hope the Major gets what he deserves and rots in Hell. He hurt his own family as well and that pisses me off even more. Bury him with hogs and covered with their flesh, but does not even deserve that.
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11-05-2009, 21:46
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Rest In Peace and my condolences to the family and friend and a complete and speedy recovery for the wounded.
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11-05-2009, 21:47
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How long will we have to endure this type of incident while as a nation being forced to explain it away? Name calling, PTSD for a crazy shrink, he was a "good American" who was driven to...or some other form of crap. It takes no effort to see what's going on here. It's a shame it can't take place in a conventional environment. If it would only be that all these freaks would gather together and declare their intent. Then we could fight face to face instead of taking it in the back and unarmed.
It's difficult to endure when you are honest and will hold yourself to the boundaries you are given, unlike the monster who knows no bounds and respects no one.
God bless the innocent and their families who did nothing to deserve this. There's got to be a special place in hell for this evil monster disguised as a soldier.
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11-05-2009, 21:49
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Six months ago Malik Nadal Hasan was quoted as saying "Muslims have the right to rise up against the US military"
The MSM are making excuses for him, saying he didn't want to go to war. None dare mention Jihad or that Al Qaeda directed Muslims to infiltrate the military for these very types of attacks.
American lives are being sacrificed at the alter of political correctness
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11-05-2009, 22:19
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Originally Posted by G
I'm absolutely gutted for you guys......I wish all the injured a speedy recovery.
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G, Thank you. That best describes my thoughts.
Prayers out for those lost, injured and the families of all.
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11-05-2009, 22:26
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My prayers for the slain and injured and their families.
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11-05-2009, 22:34
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Prayers and condolences.
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11-05-2009, 22:35
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11-05-2009, 23:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marina
Recall plot to attack Fort Dix by self-radicalized, homegrown cell of immigrants from Jordan and other Muslim countries.
Sad that the military is at war, targeted here at home, and America is at the food court.
I can't imagine Obama will have the stomach to announce more troops for A'stan anytime soon.
prayers out for the fallen and the families
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What is meant by this? Maybe I'm reading it incorrectly.
And I don't think Obama has been as affected by this action as we would all expect him to be. After all, he was at a very important conference this afternoon that took precedence over the shooting, and there were a lot of important people he had to thank and shout out to before addressing the issue of the Muslim who shot up one of our bases.
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11-05-2009, 23:05
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Originally Posted by dmgedgoods
This is not PTSD.
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I would think the investigation will determine if PTSD played a role.
Source is here.
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Anyone can get PTSD at any age. This includes war veterans and survivors of physical and sexual assault, abuse, accidents, disasters, and many other serious events.
Not everyone with PTSD has been through a dangerous event. Some people get PTSD after a friend or family member experiences danger or is harmed. The sudden, unexpected death of a loved one can also cause PTSD.
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Source is here.
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Social Workers May Indirectly Experience Post-traumatic Stress
ScienceDaily (Jan. 10, 2007) — In the wake of national disasters such as the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and Hurricane Katrina as well as traumas such as sexual assault, social workers are among the first to help victims heal.
But a first of its kind study by a researcher in the University of Georgia School of Social Work finds that repeatedly hearing the stories of trauma victims doubles the risk of social workers themselves experiencing post-traumatic stress disorder.
In a study published in the January issue of the journal Social Work, assistant professor Brian Bride finds that while 7.8 percent of the general population experience PTSD over a lifetime, 15 percent of the social workers surveyed met the diagnostic criteria for PTSD within the week prior to being surveyed.
“In addition to working with disaster victims, social workers hear from children who have been sexually abused, victims of incest, rape, and people who have experienced the horrors of combat and community violence,” Bride said. “Hearing these stories over and over can produce thoughts and images that can be traumatic.”
The phenomenon of being indirectly victimized by trauma, known as secondary traumatic stress disorder, has only recently gained the attention of researchers. It was first recognized a decade ago in spouses of war veterans and family members of holocaust survivors. Bride said his study is the first to examine the phenomenon in a broad sample of social workers.
He surveyed nearly 300 practicing social workers in fields such as mental health and substance abuse, health care, child welfare and school social work and found that:- 40 percent thought about their work with traumatized clients without intending to
- 22 percent reported feeling detached from others
- 26 percent felt emotionally numb
- 28 percent had a sense of foreshortened future
- 27 percent reported irritability
- 28 percent reported concentration difficulties
PTSD is a disorder characterized by symptoms that include repeated and unwanted memories of the event, avoidance responses such as emotional numbness, and so-called arousal responses such as hypervigilance or difficulty concentrating. Bride’s study found that 55 percent of those surveyed met one diagnostic criteria, 20 percent met two criteria and 15 percent met the three criteria necessary for a diagnosis of PTSD.
Bride said that although rates of secondary traumatic stress are significant among social workers, awareness of the disorder among professionals is low.
“Social workers may hear about burnout and they may hear about self care,” Bride said. “But they’re not hearing about secondary post traumatic stress disorder.”
He recommends that colleges and universities educate social work students on how to minimize the risk of secondary traumatic stress. Bride also urges employers to provide continuing education on the subject and to offer appropriate workloads, support, time off and mental health insurance.
Bride said that social workers themselves can reduce the likelihood of secondary traumatic stress by finding time for themselves and activities they enjoy. He also recommends that social workers understand which cases are most distressing to them and to schedule those clients so they are not a disproportionate share of their workload.
People enter helping professions such as social work because they want to make a difference, Bride said, but he warns that secondary traumatic stress has the potential to reduce the quality of care social workers provide and may ultimately drive people from the profession.
“We suspect that people are leaving social work because of this,” he said.
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And also << LINK>>.
Understanding why these acts were committed does not mean we have to justify them.
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11-05-2009, 23:10
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Sincere condolences to friends and family of those killed.
A speedy and complete recovery to those wounded.
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11-05-2009, 23:15
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Bladesmith to the Quiet Professionals
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Originally Posted by Pete
And with an assist from Sigaba we know also know the President can not tell the difference between the Medal of Honor, the Presidential Medal of Freedom and the Congressional Gold Medal.
Hey, to some the Medals are just twinkly things that hand around some peoples neck. All the same.
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Pete,
I caught that. Of all the things The PRESIDENT of the United States of America should get right, this should be near the top of the list.
Has the teleprompter been farmed out to offshore tech support?
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