Presidential Primaries

[afchic]

Originally Posted by Shar

Amen to that.

I love how the headline on MSNBC right now is "Women Return to Clinton". She got 46% of the female vote to 34% going to Obama. That doesn't seem like a landslide to me.

One of the sub-articles is "Did the tears help?" I sure hope that didn't do it. I'll be awfully disappointed in my gender. But my guess is that the media is blowing this out of proportion.

I was watching Hannity and Colmes last night and they were discussing this with pundits from the left and the right. The left of course said that it made her seem more human and she will make gains from that (example New Hampshire). The right came back with Hillary has always been an ultra feminist, who is now using her gender (boo hoo I am just a poor woman getting picked on by all these mean men) and tears to gain the Presidency. I have a feeling this is going to come back and bite her in the ass. It proves what a real phoney she is and to what lengths she is willing to give up on her own principles to get what she wants. That is definitly the person I want running this country!! LOL

[Shar]

Originally Posted by afchic

It proves what a real phoney she is and to what lengths she is willing to give up on her own principles to get what she wants.

Except that she's done it before and she knows she can do it again.
Talk about flip-flopping:

• During 1992 Presidential Campaign she maligned Tammy Wynette saying she wasn't a "stand by your man", cookie-baking kind of gal in response to the Flowers affair.
• After the Lewinsky business she DID end up "standing by her man"
• She also released a number of cookie recipes throughout her career as a political wife, most notably whenever she was being criticized for not being ladylike enough. http://clinton2.nara.gov/WH/EOP/Firs...l/cookies.html

She's pulled this "tea and cookie" thing off and on for years. It all depends on the way the wind is blowing whether she's a pants or skirt kind of gal. I can't believe I'm going to say this, but look at Nancy Pelosi or Geraldine Ferraro, they aren't/weren't playing games with their gender - they just are who they are (or CRAZY Ann Richards!). For the record, I do much prefer to look to the Kay Bailey Hutchinson, Elizabeth Dole models in politics - but even on the Dem side, the women don't have to play the game she's been playing.

[Matta mile]

No love of Hillary here either but after being "asleep at the wheel" for more years than I care to mention on the subject of national elections this Ron Paul guy seems to meet the sincerity, issues, and ability to get things done criteria that I have in my head. I have expected so little of the Federal Government's ability to manage that this old, Barney Fife type of character infact has got me excited in comparison to all other delegates. I for one like his message and believe it be resposible at last.
MM

Some of you may know the author of this bit. He's a retired SF Major with the nickname "Zippo".

We may be veterans but we are Americans first.The defeatist rhetoric of Ron Paul totally overcomes any other positions he may hold and brings into question his entire agenda.I can think of no candidate I more vehemently disagree with on foreign policy.America should have learned from Vietnam and from 11 September 2001 that we cannot ignore the festering sores of terrorism and totalitarian Islam or communism. They may appear to be at odds but they are brought together by a common enemy,US! Communism uses the readily available money from the Islamic extremists to survive and the terrorists operate with impunity based on a wrongheaded western philosophy that communism is anathema to Islamic terrorism.No past history indicates this and only in Afghanistan did they come to fight each other.This was but a speed bump on the way to, especially Asian communists, grasping the lucrative brass ring of global terrorism.Ron Paul is a fool and QUITTER!Thus he fits well into the plans of the left and isolationist right.

Greenhat,

Couldn't agree more with the SF Major. Paul is frankly a bad dream, period.

[Matta mile]

Sounds like some varying opinions on Paul. Good stuff- Thanks!
MM

[Ret10Echo]

I'm still waiting to see where things go leading up to Super (duper?) Tuesday.

What I find myself working on is not getting into supporting N.E. Bodybut....because it turns out poorly if the motivation to vote for an individual is based on the fact that the person is NOT someone else.

Maryland decided that due to the MSM rhetoric that they would vote in a Democrat govenor because he was NOT a Republican. Now I get to listen to all the stories of regret from Maryland Democrats for voting for this guy because taxes are going through the roof....well duh! no surprises there.


If I watch a debate there are some candidates that give me that sort of "Used Car salesman" tingle up my neck. (No offense to the used car salesmen intended). If the candidate is doing well but I see a budget that is totally ludicrous I have to ask myself if this cat doing well based on a capability or stuffing money (through advertising etc) into peoples pockets.

Trying to glean the facts from the available sources is difficult at best.

[warrottjr]

So you think you know your candidate?

[Ret10Echo]

Strange the choice of beret color the reporter used....


Vets not a sure thing for McCain in SC By SUSANNE M. SCHAFER, Associated Press Writer
48 minutes ago

John McCain seems like a natural presidential pick for veterans in South Carolina, a decorated POW of the Vietnam War in a military-friendly state.

The Republican senator has been running campaign ads that touch on his war record. His "No Surrender" tour spent days here in the fall as he focused on the Iraq war. And many veterans are in his corner.

But, in keeping with the volatile primary season, the veteran vote is just not that simple. The economy and health care are factors for military retirees, and most say they vote for a person — not a uniform. Plus, and hold on to your green berets, some are Democrats

"Veterans have a lot in common with other voters in this state and that makes it hard to pigeonhole them," said Danielle Vinson, a political science professor at Furman University. "In the past, the veterans have not been a consistent voting bloc."

The Sept. 11 attacks have made national security more of a worry for people than it was eight years ago, which could help McCain, Vinson said. Polls taken by The Associated Press and a consortium of television networks of people who voted in the 2000 GOP primary showed veterans split their votes about equally between McCain, an Arizona senator, and George W. Bush, who won here.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080117/...4TOiHIKJ1h24cA