03-07-2004, 21:37
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All very true, but remember we are talking to each other from all over the globe. Others may not have had as nice an experience with LEOs as you or I have had. Hard to apply what you know from yours, to what someone else has seen in his. I think the vast majority of LEOs are good people, and most PDs are good also. However, when you get large PDs like NY with 39K Officers you will have bad apples in any group that large, and with some small underbudgeted, understaffed, undertrained, non accredited PDs you can get some real winners in there. When they started Floridas certification program it was amazing. Small PDs that never did a single background check on any Officers had to start checking all of them. IIRC one of the city PDs near me found out the Chief was a convicted child molester when his came back.  That of course was the purpose of the program, to raise the level of professionalism, and to do away with this reputation. They still have a long battle to fight, and in some areas they have made huge strides in doing so. Some have not, and until they do it will continue to hurt even the good officers and PDs. I still blame a lot of it on the people and politicians, they dont take law enforcement seriously enough IMO. Of course this varies greatly from community to community, some outstanding very professional small town PDs out there, and some outstanding big city ones too. The turds however are still out there, a lot less then there used to be, but still damaging the rep of fine upstanding professional LEOs every where. Ever been to Jessup, GA? LOL
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03-07-2004, 21:39
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Ktek-
I have had my ass kicked (unprovoked) by a more then a few socal cops. While I agree with your post, I can't say that my lEO experience as a non-leo has been "nice". 
Will this thread ever end?
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03-07-2004, 21:42
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LOL..
That name crap ain't funny!!
I am working on it. I had them all archived like TS dictated in knuckledragger thread. I thought that freed up the PM count??? Oh well, so much for my computer skills.
Anyway, I will delete some of my old ones. Someone on Socnet wrote me and he wants his tinhat back.
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03-07-2004, 21:43
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Watch the language cop apologist, there are ladies present.
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He knows only The Cause.
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03-07-2004, 21:48
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I am referring more to the internet. What do you think would happen here, on SOCNET or LF if I posted some case and said they should fry the LEO? Like the one with the SF Studs?
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One of the only times I can recall LEOs being openly disgusted with another LEO was the Trooper Latika incident. Even on Officer.com they were all over her and wished she would hang. Unfortunately that is the only time I can recall not even one LEO defending an obviously bad apple, but that was a rather extreme incident, and all caught on tape. 
http://ada.oklahoman.net/ramgen/real...er_shooting.rm
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03-07-2004, 21:48
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Watch the language cop apologist, there are ladies present.
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No prob NDD.....but Sacamuelas
ain't exactly a lady. Why I gotta be a "cop apologist"? I prefer "coperator" or "profiler" or something to that extent.
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03-07-2004, 21:52
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Originally posted by woobie master
No prob NDD.....but Sacamuelas
ain't exactly a lady. Why I gotta be a "cop apologist"? I prefer "coperator" or "profiler" or something to that extent.
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Well no, but he is a girl with a man's gun that measures his shot groups with a yardstick from BB&B.
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
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03-07-2004, 21:54
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Originally posted by woobie master
No prob NDD.....but Sacamuelas
ain't exactly a lady. Why I gotta be a "cop apologist"? I prefer "coperator" or "profiler" or something to that extent.
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"Copulator" work for you, or would you prefer "Excessive Force Employer"?
TR
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03-07-2004, 21:59
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"Copulator" work for you, or would you prefer "Excessive Force Employer"?
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Definitely Excessive Force Employer, Sir.
I found this pic of TR and NDD instructing on Naval maneuvers.....
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03-07-2004, 22:00
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03-07-2004, 22:03
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Good God that was quick.. I step away to eat with the Mrs. and I get ambushed by the vocabulary sniper(NDD). BE careful WM, NDD is real touchy on which cool guy words you use and to whom. Some sort of inferiority complex issue I am working with him on. LOL
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03-07-2004, 22:05
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Dude, How did you hijack my computer and post that crap? I would never post something like that.......
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03-07-2004, 22:06
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Good God that was quick.. I step away to eat with the Mrs. and I get ambushed by the vocabulary sniper(NDD). BE careful WM, NDD is real touchy on which cool guy words you use and to whom. Some sort of inferiority complex issue I am working with him on. LOL
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This, from a kid with a big pistol, and a big stick (the wooden kind, not the tiny one he uses the microscope to examine).
Glad that my dental appointments are GTG for a while, they probably have a secret commo system or something for problem patients.
TR
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03-07-2004, 22:07
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I can do special avatars as well as titles. I am multi-tasking!
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
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03-07-2004, 22:08
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Dude, How did you hijack my computer and post that crap? I would never post something like that.......
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His name wasn't Sneaky for nothing. 
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