Egyptian protesters scale US Embassy wall in Cairo

[Pete]

Muslim cleric Abu Islam Burns the Holy Bible

http://continentalnews.net/2012/09/1...lam-11983.html

"Muslim cleric Abu Islam Burns the Holy Bible in front of thousands of Muslims at protest outside the US Embassy in Cairo, Egypt, on Tuesday, 9/11. His action was met with applause and anti-Christian cheers from the demonstrators.............."

Worth a slow close read. Seems he says he didn't burn it. He just tore it up, threw some pages to the crowd to stomp on and then a man standing next to him burned it.

Some interesting back and forth between the government and Coptics also.

And Christians all over the world will come boiling out of the churches on Sunday to burn and kill!

[Paragrouper]

Q; What to do when you just can't fill those camera shots with angry protesters?
A: Rent-A-Riot!

Cairo, Egypt (CNN) -- Egypt's prime minister said some of the thousands involved in days of protests near the U.S. Embassy got paid to participate, state news reported Saturday, the same day riot police managed to force demonstrators from the area.

Prime Minister Hesham Kandil said "a number" of those involved in the tense, sometimes violent protests, which began Tuesday, later confessed to getting paid to participate, according to the state-run Middle East News Agency. He noted, too, that some of the demonstrators were acting on their own and weren't paid to vent their anger against the United States over an inflammatory anti-Islam film that was privately produced in that country.

Full Story Here

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by Pete

Worth a slow close read. Seems he says he didn't burn it. He just tore it up, threw some pages to the crowd to stomp on and then a man standing next to him burned it.

I wonder if they consider that their version of "walking remarks back" a little?

This'll play well.

“Khaybar, Khaybar, O Jews, the army of Mohammad is coming.”

Interesting article.

[Paslode]

It will be interesting to see where this rumor ends up.

The U.S. State Department is currently in negotiations with the Egyptian government for the transfer of custody of Omar Abdel-Rahman, also known as “the Blind Sheikh,” for humanitarian and health reasons, a source close to the the Obama administration told TheBlaze.

The Department of Justice, however, told TheBlaze that Rahman is serving a life sentence and is not considered for possible “release.” Previous calls to the State Department were referred to the Department of Justice and so far, the State Department has neither confirmed nor denied the report

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/sour...eikh-to-egypt/

[tonyz]

IMO, Congressman West makes a valid point in the short article below.

To add to Congressman West's observation, MOO, Clinton, Obama and Rice each appear unprepared and naive - each in thier own way - in this matter.

Roll on November.


Allen West: Rice Is "Asinine, Naive, Inept, Incompetent And Borderline Ignorant."

Rep. ALLEN WEST (R-Fla.) on FOX News' Justice with Judge Jeanine Sunday night: Well, it's very simple. When I listened to the UN ambassador Susan Rice today several words came to mind: asinine, naive, inept, incompetent and borderline ignorant. Because when you understand that the Egyptian government, their intelligence services, put out a letter talking about the potential threat of an attack, uprisings, about a week before this. It was even printed in the Jerusalem Post on 9/11.

And anyhow, I can tell you Judge, being in the combat zones several times after 9/11, we were always on a higher state of security and alertness on 9/11. It should have been the exact same thing here. And for Susan Rice to say this was not a well coordinated attack -- first of all, I have to ask her what is her line of expertise in understanding what a well coordinated attack is because this was not happenstance, it was not coincidence. It was well planned, well coordinated and the president there in Libya confirms that.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid..._ignorant.html

[Richard]

Shades of Islamabad in '79 when a close friend got his first "Blue Star" - the more things change, the more they don't.

Richard

[tonyz]

Originally Posted by Richard

Shades of Islamabad in '79 when a close friend got his first "Blue Star" - the more things change, the more they don't.

Richard

Richard, some at CNN appear to share your observations.

The author of the CNN piece does differ with Ambassador Rice regarding "spontaneity."

Survivor of 1979 consulate attack: Libya an eerie echo

September 13, 2012|By Jeffrey Lunstead, Special to CNN
LIBYA

Excerpt:

"There are eerie resemblances between that day in Pakistan and this week's attacks in Libya and Egypt -- rumors of anti-Islamic acts and groups that exploited those rumors to stir up crowds. This is the normal pattern for riots. They are not usually "spontaneous." Instead they are instigated by opportunists."

http://articles.cnn.com/2012-09-13/o...-pakistan-army

IIRC, 1979 was the Carter administration - IMO another appeaser.

[tonyz]

Obama’s Security Breach In Libya Is Ignored By American Media

Scott Paulson
CBS
September 17, 2012 2:08 PM

As the liberal American press and ultra-liberal bloggers inundate the Internet and newsprints with criticisms of what Mitt Romney, the GOP presidential challenger to President Barack Obama, said about Obama during the Libyan attacks and murders, throngs of foreign press and few American outlets tell the real story involved with the White House’s role in the incidents that we now know could have been prevented.

After the American media grabbed and held the pro-Obama headlines against Romney’s comments and took Obama’s “Romney shoots first and aims second” quote to iconic proportions, the rest of the world is reporting that the Obama administration knew about the planned-attack on the Benghazi, Libya Embassy where four Americans, including United States Ambassador Christopher Steven was murdered.

That strong allegation needs to be “the story”, not the political-trouncing of Mitt Romney, a man who has nothing to do with the White House, the U.S. Embassy, or the deadly and non-deadly attacks on our United States Embassy’s around the world. “The story” obviously involves the White House and the president within – Barack Obama – not the Massachusetts challenger.

The reporters and bloggers who have made Mitt Romney the story – instead of the attacked-United States Embassy, the innocent Americans who were attacked, and the White House with its president in abstention as he continually treks the campaign trail regardless of the duties left behind in Washington, D.C. – are guilty of letting another American tragedy remain buried.

All attention must be given to the more-than-strong suggestions that the Libyan attack didn’t “just happen” to have happened on September 11 – the commemorative day of the September 11, 2001 attacks on New York City – but were planned well-in-advance.

While the movie trailer of “Innocence of Muslims” may have added fuel to the venom’s fire regarding the protests throughout the Middle East, the murderous attack on the U.S. Embassy and its American occupants in Benghazi, Libya was no accident – simply orchestrated by a few who had no plan or memory of 9/11.

Reports from a number of knowledgeable sources are being widely-circulated regarding the United States State Department’s having received knowledge of the attack in Benghazi as early as September 9 – two days before the four Americans were killed. That’s “the story”. There were also similar reports that the attack in Cairo was revealed prior to its occurrence. The knowledgeable sources report that no warning was given to persons in the U.S. Embassies in Cairo or Benghazi after the State Department was warned.*In Libya, there were approximately 30 people in the main consulate building who could have been warned but weren’t.

Additionally, Wanis el-Sharef, Libya’s deputy interior minister, told the Associated Press that the heavily armed militants “used” a protest of an anti-Islam film as a “cover” in their deadly attack on the U.S. Embassy while screaming “God is great!”

Yet, American reporters and bloggers waste their printed space writing about their belief that Mitt Romney stepped on Obama’s toes with a political misspeak.

So what!

That is no reason to ignore – or totally replace – “the story”. And anyone who doesn’t realize that has no business reporting or blogging whatsoever. Save the “OMG, a politician dissed another politician” for a slow news day. And the way things are going in this country, there is no clear sign of a slow news day coming anytime soon. There’s a story here, and it’s being ignored by people who wouldn’t challenge President Barack Obama and his White House if their lives depended on it. And, ironically, their lives may depend on reporting “the story” instead of their worthless “Romney piece”. It’s absolutely maddening and totally ludicrous that they are ignoring “the international story”.

If for no other reason, in the name, honor, and memory of United States Ambassador Christopher Steven, information management officer Sean Smith, private security guard and former Navy SEAL Glen Doherty, and security personnel Glen Doherty, allow “the true story” to be told.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/...merican-media/

[Dozer523]

US Muslims walk tightrope, denouncing both violence and anti-Islam film
By Kari Huus, NBC News


American Muslims, sometimes accused of failing to speak out against violence carried out in the name of their religion, have forcefully condemned both the amateurish anti-Islam film that triggered recent riots and protest in the Middle East, Asia and north Africa and the violence that it engendered.

"The American Muslim community has been very forceful and consistent in its rejection of a violent response to this intentionally provocative material," said Ibrahim Hooper, director of communications for the Council on American Islamic Relations, a nonprofit Muslim civil rights and advocacy group.

In a flurry of statements, press briefings, vigils, media interviews and interfaith events, groups representing American Muslims were quick to condemn the violence, host vigils for the victims and send condolences to the families of the Benghazi victims. But they also condemned the film, which seems deliberately designed to anger Muslims.

In getting the initial response out, there was an opportunity to make two points, said Hooper.

"People here understand that America and Americans shouldn’t be blamed for the actions of a few individuals who produced this hate film," said Hooper. "They should also understand that all Muslims shouldn’t be blamed for the acts of a few individuals that carried out these attacks as well."

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012...slam-film?lite

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Dozer523

US Muslims walk tightrope, denouncing both violence and anti-Islam film
By Kari Huus, NBC News....................

The population of Egypt is about 90% Muslim and 10% Coptic Christian - at least that was a while ago.

The MB and Salafists got around 75% of the popular vote. Lets just assume that the Coptics didn't vote for the MB of Salafists.

That means about 83% of the Muslims voted for the MB and Salafists.

Last time I took math 83 was bigger than 17.

It's not what they say in the West it's what they say and do in the East.

CAIR ?? Really

From Dozer's story

"............."The Muslim men and women (and yes, there are plenty of women) who support — whether actively or passively — the idea that blasphemers deserve to suffer punishment are not a fringe group," writes Hirsi Ali, a Somali-born woman who fled to Holland to escape an arranged marriage. "On the contrary, they represent the mainstream of contemporary Islam." ................................."

[Dozer523]

Originally Posted by Pete

From Dozer's story

It's not MY story.

The heck with it . . .

[Paslode]

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said on Wednesday the maker of an anti-Islam film that triggered violent protests across the Muslim world abused his right to freedom of expression by making the movie, which he called a "disgraceful and shameful act."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...88I1CW20120919

Arab League chief Nabil al-Araby said Wednesday that the league, along with the Organization of the Islamic Conference, the European Union and the African Union are close to formulating an international agreement penalizing blasphemy and insults to religious figures.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...88I1CW20120919


Personally, I don't believe the movie triggered anything....it was a planned event to coincide with the anniversary of 9/11 and the movie is a mere distraction to advance Islam and Sharia.

[Richard]

I've been working on a deal with Caballero Video for a film titled "Debbie Does Mohammed...and Buddha and Confucius and Jesus and Vishnu and Joseph Smith and L Ron Hubbard and Barbarella and John Holmes and Abraham and Ronald Reagan" - if these riots scare away the Abu Dhabi, Liberty University, and Chinese investors and squealch the deal, I'm gonna be pissed and sue the UN for not protecting my right to freedom of expression and equal opportunity to earn a living in an internationally lucrative and highly competetive market.

And so it goes...

Richard

[mark46th]

Interesting that Hillary condemns anti-Islamic rhetoric but attends the Broadway play "The Book of Mormon". So much for balance and fairness... I guess it is O.K. to defend Islam and Reverend Wright, but not Mormons? How come there weren't any riots in Salt Lake City when "The Book of Mormon" came out?

[trvlr]

Originally Posted by mark46th

How come there weren't any riots in Salt Lake City when "The Book of Mormon" came out?

I think that's why she was able to go to the play. That's why South Park does what it does. We know that we can count on Americans generally reacting to a good "trolling" with grace and understanding. We hold freedom of expression (from the Universal Declaration of Human Rights) in higher regard than any other country in the world.