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Old 07-22-2009, 21:03   #1
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POTUS Weighs in on Harvard Prof Arrest

Man, now the POTUS is trying to take over Jesse Jackson's job too... Big government has no limits!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...est=latestnews

Obama Says Police Acted 'Stupidly' in Harvard Professor's Arrest

WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama said Wednesday that police acted "stupidly" in the arrest of prominent black scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. and that despite racial progress blacks and Hispanics are still singled out unfairly for arrest.

"This still haunts us," Obama said.

Obama called Gates a friend, and said he doesn't know all the facts of the case. Nonetheless, Obama said, anyone would have been angry if treated the way Gates claims police in Cambridge, Mass., treated him. Gates, a Harvard University professor, claims he was arrested in his home after showing ID to police who responded to a report of a possible burglary.

"Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof he was in own home," Obama said during a prime-time news conference that otherwise focused on the health care debate.

Gates' arrest followed a report of a possible burglary. A woman apparently saw Gates force the front door and called police. Police came and demanded that Gates show identification. Gates was arrested shortly afterward for alleged disorderly conduct, a charge that was dropped Tuesday.

"What I think we know separate and apart from this incident is that there's a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately," Obama said. "That's just a fact."

That disparity is a reminder that "race remains a factor in the society," Obama said.

The nation's first black president held himself up as testament to what he called the "incredible progress" minorities have achieved.

The police sergeant accused of racism after he arrested Gates insisted Wednesday that he won't apologize.

Police say Gates at first refused to display ID and then accused the officer of racism.

Sgt. James Crowley said he followed proper procedures in arresting Gates.

Standing in the stately East Room of the White House where he now lives, Obama allowed some humor into the discussion.

Obama ticked off the reported facts of the Gates case -- starting with Gates apparently forgetting his keys and jimmying the door. Police responded appropriately at first, Obama said.

"I mean, if I was trying to jigger into ...," Obama began, and then trailed off as reporters laughed. Obama laughed, too. "Well, I guess this is my house now so it probably wouldn't happen."

Obama said he could understand police responding in good faith if he was forcing his way into his old house in Chicago.

"Here I'd get shot," he joked.
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Old 07-22-2009, 21:55   #2
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I'll bet anyone a $1k that what actually happened was:

"Because of his position and/or status @ Harvard he thought--I'm above the law!" I've been in enough situations w/LEOs that if! You followed their directions during an incident, getting arrested can be avoided.

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I'll bet anyone a $1k that what actually happened was:

"Because of his position and/or status @ Harvard he thought--I'm above the law!" I've been in enough situations w/LEOs that if! You followed their directions during an incident, getting arrested can be avoided.

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You know that's what happened. The cops just got tired of listening to his shit so they curffed him and threw him in the back of the car. And so, why does the POTUS feel the need to fan the bullshit? Nevermind... I know the answer. h

With that said, I just can't help but be impressed with the POTUS beating Jesse and Al to the draw on this... He's good. I need to keep a Pro-Timer ready for next time.
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Old 07-22-2009, 23:09   #4
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“Don’t you know who I am?!”

While arrogance and pomposity are quite rare among university professors…...failure to comply will get you detained.
CNN leads the rush to judgment and works to create the next Rodney King:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/22/gates.arrest.reaction/

The 'unfathomable' arrest of a black scholar

updated 2:07 p.m. EDT, Wed July 22, 2009
By Wayne Drash
ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- Boris Kodjoe owns a mansion in Atlanta. But when he goes to answer his door, the black actor knows what it's like to be an outcast.
"When I'm opening the door of my own house, someone will ask me where the man of the house is, implying that I'm staff," said Kodjoe, best known for starring in Showtime's "Soul Food."
It's a feeling some African-Americans say is all too common, even to this day in America: No matter your status or prominence in society, you're still typecast. That's why the recent arrest of Henry Louis Gates Jr., one of the nation's most prominent African-American scholars, has stirred outrage and debate.
Jelani Cobb, an author and professor at Spelman College in Atlanta, says it's troubling on many levels when "one of the most recognizable African-Americans in the country can be arrested in his own home and have to justify being in his own home."
"It's really kind of unfathomable," Cobb said. "If it can happen to him, yeah, it can happen to any of us."
That's a sentiment echoed by Jimi Izrael. "If a mild-mannered, bespectacled Ivy League professor who walks with a cane can be pulled from his own home and arrested on a minor charge, the rest of us don't stand a chance," Izrael wrote Tuesday on The Root, an online magazine with commentary from a variety of black perspectives that's co-founded by Gates.
"We all fit a description. We are all suspects."
In an interview with The Root, Gates said he was outraged by the incident and hopes to use the experience as a teaching tool, including a possible PBS special on racial profiling….
Gates had just returned from a trip to China when a police officer responded to a call about a potential break-in at his home that was phoned in by a white woman. According to the police report, Gates was in the foyer when the officer arrived.
The officer asked Gates to "step out onto the porch and speak with me," the report says. "[Gates] replied, 'No, I will not.' He then demanded to know who I was. I told him that I was 'Sgt. Crowley from the Cambridge Police' and that I was 'investigating a report of a break in progress' at the residence.
"While I was making this statement, Gates opened the front door and exclaimed, 'Why, because I'm a black man in America?' "
According to the report, Gates initially refused to show the officer his identification, instead asking for the officer's ID. But Gates eventually did show the officer his identification that included his home address.
"The police report says I was engaged in loud and tumultuous behavior. That's a joke," Gates told The Root. "It escalated as follows: I kept saying to him, 'What is your name, and what is your badge number?' and he refused to respond. I asked him three times, and he refused to respond. And then I said, 'You're not responding because I'm a black man, and you're a white officer.'"
Known as Skip by friends and colleagues, Gates is the director of the W.E.B. Du Bois Institute for African and African-American Research at Harvard University, and an acclaimed PBS documentarian….
Kim Coleman, a Washington radio host, cultural commentator and blogger, said she grew numb when she saw the mugshot.
"I was not prepared for that," she said. "To see one of my heroes in a mugshot was not something that I was expecting. ... It just tells me we're not in a post-racial society."…
Rebecca Walker, an award-winning author, said the arrest was devastating to scholars, writers, and artists "who work so hard to keep a free flow of information."
"It seems eerily ironic Mr. Gates was returning from China, where surveillance is so high and freedom of speech and ideas so curtailed," Walker said. "To see the mugshot of Skip was a blow to all of us who feel some sense of safety based on our work to try to mend all of these broken fences in America -- to make ourselves into people who refuse to be limited by race and class and gender and everything else."
"To end up, at the end of the day, treated like a criminal, unjustly stripped of our accomplishments and contributions even if only for a moment, is profoundly disturbing. We must ask ourselves what it means, and to allow ourselves to face various scenarios regarding power and freedom and how these will intersect in the coming years."…
Gates said he has a newfound understanding of exactly what that means. "There's been a very important symbolic change and that is the election of Barack Obama," he told The Root. "But the only black people who truly live in a post-racial world in America all live in a very nice house on 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue."
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Old 07-23-2009, 01:17   #5
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He refused to follow the officer's directions. And now our POTUS jumps in with both feet. What a jerk. This is the NPR articlce:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...98&ft=1&f=1001
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Old 07-23-2009, 05:52   #6
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Officer in Henry Gates flap tried to save Reggie Lewis

Officer in Henry Gates flap tried to save Reggie Lewis

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/reg...ome&position=0

A little background on the "rogue cop".

"....Gates, who upon his arrest allegedly bellowed to a gathering crowd on Ware Street, “This is what happens to black men in America!” believes he was targeted by Crowley - whom he called a “rogue” cop - because of his race...."

Once again the press helps to stir stuff up. "Allegedly"? Dude, either he was or he was not. This ain't a court of law. If there was a crowd somebody saw what was going on.

Man, I'm a firm believer in if you're doing something odd and a LEO walks up your first words are "Yes, officer".

And for the "neighbors" - this was in daylight. What kind of "neighbor" who can see the front porch well enough to see what they were doing can not see.... Arrr, I'd of stepped out on the porch with my phone and shouted "Hey, Mr Gates, got a problem?" Wrong reply and hit 911.
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Firgue the odds for a quick police response to that address next time there's a report of a problem? Hopefully their CADS flags the address with a warning for the next officer that is dispatched.
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Police report

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/Police%2...s%20arrest.PDF

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President Phones Cambridge Policeman

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WASHINGTON (AP) - Trying to tamp down an uproar over race, President Barack Obama said Friday he used an unfortunate choice of words in commenting on the arrest of black scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. and could have "calibrated those words differently."

The president said he had telephoned the white policeman who arrested Gates, and he said the conversation confirmed his belief that the officer was a good man and an outstanding officer.

Obama said later that he had spoken to Gates as well, but he didn't say any more about that conversation.

The president caused a stir when he said at a prime-time news conference earlier this week that Cambridge, Mass., police had "acted stupidly" by arresting Gates, a Harvard scholar and friend of the president's, for disorderly conduct.

On Friday, Obama made an impromptu appearance at the daily White House briefing in an effort to contain the controversy. He said he continued to believe that both the officer, Sgt. James Crowley, and Gates had overreacted during the incident, but the president also faulted his own comments.

"This has been ratcheting up, and I obviously helped to contribute ratcheting it up," he said. "I want to make clear that in my choice of words, I think I unfortunately gave an impression that I was maligning the Cambridge police department and Sgt. Crowley specifically. And I could've calibrated those words differently."

The incident began when police went to Gates' home last week after a passer-by reported a potential break-in. It turned out that Gates had tried to jimmy open his own door, which was stuck, and there was no intruder. Gates protested the police actions and was arrested, although the charges have since been dropped.

Before Obama's appearance Friday, a multiracial group of police officers stood with Crowley in Massachusetts and asked Obama and the state's governor, Deval Patrick, to apologize for comments they called insulting. Patrick has said Gates' arrest was "every black man's nightmare."

Dennis O'Connor, president of the Cambridge Police Superior Officers Association, said Obama's remarks were "misdirected" and the Cambridge police "deeply resent the implication" that race was a factor in the arrest.

Sgt. Leon Lashley, a black officer who was at Gates' home with Crowley at the time of the arrest, said he supported his fellow officer's action "100 percent."

Gates has said he returned from an overseas trip, found the door jammed and he and his driver attempted to force it open. Gates went through the back door and was inside the house when police arrived. Police say he flew into a verbal rage when Crowley asked him to show identification to prove he should be in the home. Police say Gates accused Crowley of racial bias, refused to calm down and was arrested.

Gates, 58, maintains he turned over identification when asked to do so. He says Crowley arrested him after the professor followed him to the porch, repeatedly demanding the sergeant's name and badge number because he was unhappy over his treatment.
The president did not give the impression that he was maligning the officer in question: he maligned the officer in question.

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"This has been ratcheting up, and I obviously helped to contribute ratcheting it up," he said. "I want to make clear that in my choice of words, I think I unfortunately gave an impression that I was maligning the Cambridge police department and Sgt. Crowley specifically. And I could've calibrated those words differently."
Or you could have JUST STAYED OUT OF IT!
A local issue between Cambridge PD and Gates. If Gates files a complaint of discrimination with the Feds against the sergeant, then it becomes a Federal matter AND THE POTUS STILL NEEDS TO STAY OUT OF IT until the investigation/exoneration/prosecution is over.

He just can't keep his mouth shut.
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Black Police Officer at Scene Supports Officer Crowley

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/s...,4731766.story
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Henry Gates is my new hero as he has single handedly brought Obamacare to a grinding halt.
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Lightbulb Hold your horses!

If they release the "audio" tapes.......

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You really touched on something there. fox news has an article about how the big O may have stepped in it this time.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...controversies/
Exactly.... He holds a prime time press conference, with the SOLE PURPOSE of jump-starting his health care plan which had lost all momentum and was quickly losing public support, and the ONLY THING ANYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT AFTER IT, is "GATESGATE."

Add to that Gates is yet another example of one of Obama's "friends" who has a colossal chip on his shoulder and openly reverse-racist ideas, this has not been a good week for the One. America thought they were electing Denzel Washington- the cool, calm, post racial American who happens to be of color, but we're waking up to the fact that we ended up with Al Sharpton in disguise.
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