11-17-2011, 22:22
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Not a lot of fights but spent a lot of time making small explosives out of the powder from my dad's can of Hercules Red Dot...
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11-20-2011, 14:32
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#92
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I'm not completely convinced yet that I'm not qualified to try out for SF in the future, so I decided to stick around a bit longer.
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11-30-2011, 08:09
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#93
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SP5IC
This from the SF-List: Harold Johnson (former Chief of Staff) is quoted as saying that the Green Berets in Vietnam were "fugitives from responsibility. These were people that some how or other tended to be non-conformists, couldn't get along in a straight military system, and found a haven where their actions were not scrutinized too carefully, and where they came under only sporadic or intermittent observation from the regular chain of command." And, wrote the authors: "The culture clash was so great that many Green Berets took Johnson's comments as a compliment."
He forgot the Rolex, etc. Generals have their place, and so do we.
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Huge compliment. And thank God for culture clashes, and the uncanny ability to mesh right in to the cultures that oftentimes clash with our own. Forget the box. Sometimes you just have to think outside the dodecahedron.
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12-01-2011, 16:06
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That's why SF was successful in Southeast Asia. We didn't follow all the rules. There is a reason it is called "Unconventional Warfare". Geezus....
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12-03-2011, 21:02
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You know on such a topic it would be relevant to bring up the matter of training. A study was done here in Australia on our Special Force elements, namely the Special Air Service Regiment and 2Commando Regiment. I believe the study was done on these members during black role, as they trained for home or close-to counter-terrorist incidents under the esteemed Tactical Assault Group ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJdreNh1nxE).
The 'overstimulation' of certain parts of the brain caused operators to 'overdevelop' and make more use of these areas due to the unrelentless degree of high intensity training on a daily basis over a intermediate to relatively long period of time.
I have no reference as it was on the news for a short period of time, then vanished and I cannot find it published. 
But, to cause more interactions of the body and advances within neural developments or stimulation, this could probably be true to some degree. Of course they are secreting more hormones than the average human, and their workload is a lot more mentally and physically demanding - as they say, it sharpens the mind.
Their body 'norms' and degree of sensitivity to stimulation, or specific stimulants, would be at a different level and boundary limit to others. Just a thought...
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07-21-2012, 15:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rye
A study was done ...
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Can you link?
Edit: I carelessly scanned over you mentioning this:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rye
I have no reference as it was on the news for a short period of time, then vanished and I cannot find it published.
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07-22-2012, 11:59
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How to be a "Special Forces Guy":
1 Grow epic beard
2 wear black oakleys or gatorz
3 hands in pockets as much as possible
4 sweat stained hunting fishing or "contractor" hat
5 drive jacked up truck or ride a harley
6 never say its classified just look angry and no one will ask
7 see photo below,anything thats missing is above my pay grade....
Big Teddy 
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07-22-2012, 13:08
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1 Grow epic beard-CHECK
2 wear black oakleys or gatorz-CHECK
3 hands in pockets as much as possible-CHECK
4 sweat stained hunting fishing or "contractor" hat -CHECK
5 drive jacked up truck or ride a harley -AFTER DEPLOYMENT
6 never say its classified just look angry and no one will ask-CHECK
SGM will be on your ass for aleast 3 of the 5 posted above 
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07-23-2012, 05:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jgood
SGM will be on your ass for aleast 3 of the 5 posted above |
Possibly...but on the inside he's smiling...knowing he's left the detachment in good hands.
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07-28-2012, 23:43
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Sounds like a vestige of the "2%", which are psychologically precluded from developing PTSD when compared to the average service member, which theoretically comprise the vast majority of SOF as mentioned by Mr. Grossman in his book "On Killing."
Doesn't sound unreasonable, but I imagine that it's pretty standard throughout all of the SOFs that this resiliency is prevalent
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08-15-2012, 20:23
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There might be a genetic basis for whatever biological difference there is with us, but as an earlier post mentioned, the term "mind-set" expresses it well. I made it though jump school and Training Group because I already knew that nothing was going to stop me, and it didn't. Mind-set. To get past being wet, cold, hungry, exhausted, scared shitless, or otherewise stressed, and going beyond what you ever thought you could do because other members of your team are depending on you and by God, you HAVE to. Mind set. I served with men better than me - stronger, faster, more talented and skillful, etc., etc. - but my mind set kept me from letting them down. You either have it or you don't, and if you aren't sure, then you probably don't.
Then too, being a stubborn, opinionated, irrascible SOB probably helps as well.
My two cents worth.
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08-16-2012, 10:58
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Also, if ya ever noticed, there's quite a lot of lefties in SF also....( I mean folks who write left handed)..that is..more so than anywhere else...
anything to it??...
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08-16-2012, 11:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by glebo
Also, if ya ever noticed, there's quite a lot of lefties in SF also....( I mean folks who write left handed)..that is..more so than anywhere else...
anything to it??...
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I never noticed that many "lefties"! However, when I went to Camp Mackall, what I did notice was the plethora of Southerners and Westerners. In my tent, we had two guys from AZ, and one each from UT, WY, CO, MT and NM. As far as I knew, there was only one guy from CA - and believe it or not, he was from Frisco (I refuse to call it SF)... but he was a Reservist.
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08-16-2012, 11:52
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I have done some research recently...
There does seem to be one distinguishing difference:
Ego.
We have an ego that is visibly larger and more defined than the average Soldier. It is also known that an oxygen rich environment causes it to 'peak', which is why MFF guys are so much cooler than regular SF guys.
This also explains why Scuba guys run neck-and-neck in coolness with MFF guys because of the compressed gas they are sometimes exposed to. (salt water combined with compressed air produces the same jump in coolness factor as 100% aviator grade oxygen.)
Navy Special Forces (AKA-SEALS) also have the same ego genetics that we do and since they live at the beach, they are exposed to exponentially more salt water than SF Scuba dudes. Add to this the fact that all SEAL are MFF qualified now and it becomes painfully obvious why the SEALs have such GINORMOUS egos...
Its science. I’d explain it in more detail, but most folks just aren’t smart enough to understand.
Try this little quiz…
Q: How many SF guys do you know that don’t own a mirror or a baseball cap?
A: None
I rest my case.
Its science – plain and simple.
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08-16-2012, 14:27
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Hard to argue with such exquisite logic, Billy...
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