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Old 04-21-2020, 11:58   #886
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Not only is the denominator wrong, the numerator is, too.

How many of those deaths would've happened anyway?
How many aren't directly related to the virus?

Need to keep track of total deaths from illness/disease (not to include injury deaths) and compare it to what is normal for the time of year.
The difference and rate of change of that difference would give an idea of total lethality and growth rate of the virus.
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Old 04-21-2020, 12:25   #887
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This is an old one from a while ago.

Fine print at the bottom has where the numbers came from.
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Old 04-21-2020, 15:13   #888
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This is an old one from a while ago.

Fine print at the bottom has where the numbers came from.
If that reduction in BLUE is real, 13k down to 5k??
NY should get the Nobel prize for medicine,, or MATH.
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Old 04-21-2020, 15:19   #889
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If that reduction in BLUE is real, 13k down to 5k??
NY should get the Nobel prize for medicine,, or MATH.
Or, even if they had the other issues...cancer/flu/whatever....if they also tested pos for CV they were probably reported as CV deaths...rightly or wrongly
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Old 04-21-2020, 16:07   #890
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Or, even if they had the other issues...cancer/flu/whatever....if they also tested pos for CV they were probably reported as CV deaths...rightly or wrongly
There was an article recently in the Baltimore Sun

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Maryland doctors sound the alarm after seeing drop in heart attacks and strokes amid coronavirus pandemic



The number of people suffering from such symptoms likely hasn’t gone down that much, health care providers fear. Instead, they believe patients have chosen to avoid emergency room visits to their own detriment


Providers in Maryland have reported seeing below-average caseloads since the beginning of March, which some attribute to patients looking to minimize their risk of catching COVID-19 in a hospital.
Because hospitals are where "sick" people go and the MSM has portrayed them as virus-laden war zones....

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Old 04-22-2020, 09:27   #891
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For all you that thought you might have had it in January or February - you may just have.

"Timeline reset: CDC confirms weeks-earlier California deaths"

https://news4sanantonio.com/news/nat...ifornia-deaths

"...Santa Clara County officials said Tuesday the people died at home Feb. 6 and Feb. 17. Before this, the first U.S. death from the virus had been reported on Feb. 29 in Kirkland, Washington. The Medical Examiner-Coroner received confirmation Tuesday that tissue samples sent to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention tested positive for the virus, officials said...."

Way past time for large scale antigen testing.
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Maryland doctors sound the alarm after seeing drop in heart attacks and strokes amid coronavirus pandemic

The number of people suffering from such symptoms likely hasn’t gone down that much, health care providers fear.

Instead, they believe patients have chosen to avoid emergency room visits to their own detriment

Providers in Maryland have reported seeing below-average caseloads since the beginning of March, which some attribute to patients looking to minimize their risk of catching COVID-19 in a hospital
Or is there a good probability that the powers to be have re-classed deaths to make their COVID-19 numbers look good for the gloom-n-doom scare tactics??

AND the GOV Handouts??
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Old 04-22-2020, 09:46   #893
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...AND the GOV Handouts??
Good opportunity to buy some votes.
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Old 04-22-2020, 09:50   #894
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The fun fact is - if we find out that COVID-19 was "worse" it just means that its actually less-worse - more infections that were so minor that it was never even noticed only means that the zombie virus is an even smaller percentage-threat than our elected hype-resentatives have told us it was !!!

Stay Woke people - don't be oppressed by the governing class because you refuse knowledge - the oppressors are all out getting a bag while the rest of us are watching the value of our retirement accounts dwindle away.
These fools are out of pocket and i am hip to the drama!

...the disease goal posts move around like roaches at Beck's Romance Motel

First we were told flattening the curve was to stop the spread...
...but it didnt really stop the spread. If you want to stop the spread, put away the Nutella.

Then it was to stop the disease...
...which it didnt - theres even articles on the web selling doomsday info that COVVID might be spread VIA fart clouds

North Korea has no cases - China is cured - Germany is fixin' to send the Chinese an invoice and somehow, here in the USA the cure (or lack thereof) seems to be a partisan matter as opposed to a medical matter.

Medicine - its a thing.
Really - its been a thing for generations and suddenly we have all willingly emptied our piggy banks into the parking meter of Pandemia. (its a new word - I just made it up)
Pandemia is NOT a disease problem - Pandemia is a place.
Pandemia is a place halfway between the flu, not the flu, and medical politics.

I KNOW that adds up to three halfs - but Pandemia is a really big place.

If a gazllion people find out they had the zombie disease that means the morbidity is a gazillion times less than advertised.
Unless of course you live in Pandemia.
In Pandemia we wear masks under the verified medical opinions that the masks we are wearing will not stop or prevent the virus - but at Ft Pandemia you cant even go in the Commissary to buy your two-pack of shit tickets unless you are wearing a mask.

Now - we are suggesting that not only is it possible that the virus was much more widespread and much LESS fatal than we thought - we are simultaneously expected to believe that phase-2 of the zombie apocalypse will be even more worser than phase one of the zombie apocalypse.

Welcome to Pandemia - please make sure you mask is secure before signing for your TP ration.
...and for fuck sake - wash your hands - its the best method known for preventing the spread of disease.
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Old 04-22-2020, 10:11   #895
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Found on twitter. I have no idea if valid and can’t find the information elsewhere.

Wuhan virus statistical comparison of Dem versus Rep controlled states, as of 4/20/20

Dem: NY, NJ, MA, PA, CA, MI, IL LA, CT, MD
Pop: 104.8 million
Cases: 571,161
Deaths: 34,626

Rep: TX, FL, OH, AZ, TN, IN, MO, SC, AL, OK
Pop: 103.1 million
Cases: 97,150
Deaths: 2,626


There are thirty states and about 115 million people missing.
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ODNT - those statistics are flawed.

We all know that the red states enjoy white priveledge while it has become common knowledge that the virus is racist.

OF COURSE the stats in blue states are going to be worse - it is because Trump hates blue states and has colluded with the virus in an obvious attempt to tilt the election.


My wokeness is on duty 24 and 7 - including religious and federal holidays - not only am I always on the clock, I live in downtown Wokeville - the capital city of Pandemia.
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Found on twitter. I have no idea if valid and can’t find the information elsewhere.

Wuhan virus statistical comparison of Dem versus Rep controlled states, as of 4/20/20

Dem: NY, NJ, MA, PA, CA, MI, IL LA, CT, MD
Pop: 104.8 million
Cases: 571,161
Deaths: 34,626

Rep: TX, FL, OH, AZ, TN, IN, MO, SC, AL, OK
Pop: 103.1 million
Cases: 97,150
Deaths: 2,626


There are thirty states and about 115 million people missing.
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Old 04-22-2020, 11:08   #898
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Downtown Wokeville?

Is that near 47xx Ashton Drive, and a stones throw from The Cape Fear Valley Hospital? A former Det. A-333 Commo friend lived there...
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Wuhan virus statistical comparison of Dem versus Rep controlled states, as of 4/20/20

Dem: NY, NJ, MA, PA, CA, MI, IL LA, CT, MD
Pop: 104.8 million
Cases: 571,161
Deaths: 34,626

Rep: TX, FL, OH, AZ, TN, IN, MO, SC, AL, OK
Pop: 103.1 million
Cases: 97,150
Deaths: 2,626


There are thirty states and about 115 million people missing.

NY City alone accounts for over 14k deaths... The 95 corridor from NYC to DC is a huge chunk of that but also represents a population density not seen in other regions regardless.
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NY City alone accounts for over 14k deaths... The 95 corridor from NYC to DC is a huge chunk of that but also represents a population density not seen in other regions regardless.
I hear ya’! Mayor de Blasio and his appointed health minister did a bang up job promoting Chinese New Year celebrations. All that aside New York is the most visited international city in America.


As for more accurate reporting in information on COVID-19 data I believe Houston metro news sources to be the best.

https://fox26houston.com/news/the-la...r-houston-area

https://abc13.com/health/covid-19-ca...ounty/6111292/

We’re doing quite well 7,782 confirmed cases out a 7-million population and only 155 deaths and 2,071 documented recoveries from hospitals in the greater Houston area.

In my county (Montgomery) five of the seven deaths have all come from one senior living apartment.

Testing has been pretty widespread since the beginning and now it’s open to the public as a drive up...no doctors orders needed.
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