IRS Acquiring Shotguns

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

The RFP says that they are going to the Dept. of Education Inspector General.

Must be for investigating fraud, waste, and abuse by some bad people.

TR

I thought that is what we had the FBI for...interesting.

[craigepo]

"FREEZE"

"Drop the crayons, you little bastard."

"You, with the Big Chief tablet, nose in the dirt."

"HOLY SHIT, HE'S GONNA THROW A KICKBALL!!"

(pow)

"Great shot. You hit that kickball in mid-air"

"Whew, lucky we had these shotguns."

"Man, I'm hungry. Let's get to Golden Corral, before they shut down the buffet."

"Yeah. We need to keep our energy up. Tomorrow we've gotta take down a sorority house."

[Ret10Echo]

Originally Posted by Paslode

What would the Department of Education need with shotguns?

Actually that would be "MORE" shotguns:

From the RFP:

14" LOP are designated as the only shotguns authorized for ED based on compatibility with ED existing shotgun inventory, certified armor and combat training and protocol, maintenance, and parts.

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by Ret10Echo

Actually that would be "MORE" shotguns:

From the RFP:

14" LOP are designated as the only shotguns authorized for ED based on compatibility with ED existing shotgun inventory, certified armor and combat training and protocol, maintenance, and parts.


I was not aware any other federal agency was teaching "combat training" outside of the US military? Please tell me why no one in the news media is asking for an interview concerning the purchase of these weapons by the ED? (I think we should send in a FOIA requesting the purpose of the shotguns by the US Dept of ED!)

We've got some really really stupid leadership in this country, out right morons. As I said before a 14 inch barrel shotgun has but one purpose and it ain't "DEFENSE" and it ain't for "discriminating" style of shooting either. All it's going to take is one wrong person getting hit by the blast of one and in turn they will sue and win any court battle just because of the offensive & stupid style of weapon chosen.

[Ret10Echo]

Post and other MSM outlets are sniffing at this but appears to be focused on the current purchase, not the organizational structure and "LE" requirements.

Education Department buying 27 shotguns
Why is the Education Department purchasing 27 Remington Brand Model 870 police 12-gauge shotguns (all new, no re-manufactured products, thank you)?

The guns are to replace old firearms used by Education’s Office of Inspector General, which is the law enforcement arm of the department.

Here’s a statement from the office in response to a question about why need 27 shotguns with a 14-inch barrels:

“The Office of Inspector General is the law enforcement arm of the U.S. Department of Education and is responsible for the detection of waste, fraud, abuse, and other criminal activity involving Federal education funds, programs, and operations. As such, OIG operates with full statutory law enforcement authority, which includes conducting search warrants, making arrests, and carrying firearms. The acquisition of these firearms is necessary to replace older and mechanically malfunctioning firearms, and in compliance with Federal procurement requirements. For more information on OIG’s law enforcement authority, please visit their Web site at : www.ed.gov/oig "

You can find, here, a list of reports on fraud cases the office has worked on for the last decade.

I asked department officials for specific examples of when the rifles might be used, but was referred to the above statement. Perhaps agents need some muscle while apprehending folks charged with fraud.

Here's a link to an 11-page document from the Department of Justice with guidelines for the Offices of Inspector Generals within federal government department that have been given law enforcement authority. It provides detail about firearm training is to be carried out and under what circumstances authorized personnel can engage in law enforcement activities.

[Pete]

Man, it takes a whole lot of shooting or misuse to wear out a shotgun.

Funny that the Dept Of Education would have an ammo budget but force kids out of class for drawing a picture of a gun.