Beer

[HOLLiS]

Originally Posted by Q

Hollis, you sound like an old Central/South American bum like me. I love it down there. Spent 4 years in Panama, playing with Uncle Sugar and his friends. I was on one of the first two teams that went on the ground in El Sal.
Sounds like you were down that way alot earlier. Did you hang around much down there? I'm looking to set up a safehouse/beachhouse in Mazatlan....right across the Sea of Cortez from Cabo!! Should be closing on it by the end of the month. Got me an old beat up '81 CJ, a cold cerveza and the old lady!!! It will be heaven.....Burrito Heaven that is! "Q".

I thought about a place more up towards La Paz, on the Baja side. Cabo has gone way tourista. Have not been down there in a while. We have kids now, so until they fly the coup, I am stuck. Great DIVING down there.

I was there in '68 in La Union El Sal. Pretty frisky then, FDR, FMLN, and the Guardia and "Ranchers". Had a Friend about 12 years ago wanted to open a place in Costa Rica, on the Beach, get some investors together. But it fell through. I like Island time.

If you get down to Oregon, Salem area give me a shout, we have some local brew pubs, or I do a mean bar B, blacken snapper, etc........... do some shootin'.

[magician]

Back when I ran the family liquor store, I drank them all.

I had to know my merchandise, and besides, PsychoBitch From Hell was pregnant with my son. It later turned out that she was bipolar, but who knew?

Anyway, my favorite was Sapporo in the large steel cans stuck in a snow drift on the balcony. That was my everyday beer.

When I was in the mood for something a little stiffer, I preferred Sheaf Stout.

When it was time to celebrate, then Chimay was the poison of choice.

Been a long time since I partook.

I figure I drank my quota already.

[brewmonkey]

Originally Posted by Five-O

1. Red Stripe

2. Sam Adams

3. Hop Wallop (Philly area Micro brew)

If you like Victory's Hop Wallop you should check out the 90 Minute and/or the 120 Minute IPA's from DogFish Head out of Delaware. The 90 & 120 Minute are two of their versions of what is called a Double IPA or I2PA which is also what Hop Wallop would be. Be mindful though if you go for the 120 Minute as it is 21% Alcohol while the 90 comes in at 9%.

Another I2PA that you might be able to get in the PA area is the Dreadnaught IPA from Three Floyd's out of Indiana. They also have another beer called "Alpha King", which is not an I2PA but if you like hops this beer has won the Hop King Challenge several times in a row.

[brewmonkey]

Originally Posted by magician

Back when I ran the family liquor store, I drank them all.

I had to know my merchandise, and besides, PsychoBitch From Hell was pregnant with my son. It later turned out that she was bipolar, but who knew?

Anyway, my favorite was Sapporo in the large steel cans stuck in a snow drift on the balcony. That was my everyday beer.

When I was in the mood for something a little stiffer, I preferred Sheaf Stout.

When it was time to celebrate, then Chimay was the poison of choice.

Been a long time since I partook.

I figure I drank my quota already.

Chimay is indeed a fine beer. Made by the Trappiist Monks at the Chimay Monestary it is one of only 6 in Belgium and 1 in The Netherlands (out of 171 Trappist Monasteries) that produce beer. Trappist beers are some of the best on the planet and are a must for anyone to try. Of course they can be cost prohibitive so one a day or so is about the limit. They will set you back about $7 for a liter or $20 for a 6-pack of 12oz bottles in most places.

Of course having the proper stem ware to serve these beers is essential. While most beer will taste fine in a pint glass, like wine great beer needs a glass that will help emphasize it's flavor, color and aroma.

Chimay also has a line of cheeses that are very tasty, again a bit on the $$$ side.

Here is a wikipedia article on the trappist monasteries for those interested.

[Q]

Hollis, I'll let you know. Sounds like a good time. Don't wait on the Kids. My last one will be leaving the nest sometime next year, I ain't waitin'. Costa Rica is beautiiiiful. Like the chow and the black sand beaches. That whole darn area is still unstable........I like it that way.....more fun. Guatemala is probably the worst of them all and it used to be pretty tame. My brother in law did a few weeks in Belize, tried to talk him out of it, last time I seen that place it was without a doubt the nastious place. But nooooooo he goes anyway. Turns out they have gone touristy and cleaned the place up....some. El Sal may get going again I guess the Sandanistas are trying to take over again....same guys....legally. Well anyway, back to the subject at hand. Big German influence all over Central and So. America which means you can find some real good beers and of course the chow in Central America is Grand. I should be a tourist monger!!! Bye ya'll, "Q". PS: Magician are you a member of the 46th SFCA Association?? The Director lives near Pattaya?

[CPTAUSRET]

Originally Posted by brewmonkey

Chimay is indeed a fine beer. Made by the Trappiist Monks at the Chimay Monestary it is one of only 6 in Belgium and 1 in The Netherlands (out of 171 Trappist Monasteries) that produce beer.

brew:

We are departing for the Netherlands this Wed, I will have to try the Chimay. I don't remember having done so in the past.

Terry

[magician]

Heh.

I remember that one large liter bottle of Chimay was enough to get me walloped. I no longer remember its proof...but not only was it tasty, it was potent.

Great freakin' beer.

[HOLLiS]

Q, no kidding, El Sal had a really good German Beer, I forgot the name.

Another pretty good beer is Ba Ma Ba (33)

As for rice beer, Orion.... but the next morning after taste was Horrible, felt like some dog C*** in my mouth.

[brewmonkey]

Originally Posted by CPTAUSRET

brew:

We are departing for the Netherlands this Wed, I will have to try the Chimay. I don't remember having done so in the past.

Terry

Terry

The Trappist brewery in The Netherlands is called Koningshoeven. Some tasty beers are made by those Monks.

[brewmonkey]

I would be looking to China and Japan in the next 5-10 years, especially China, to be putting out some very good beers. They have been buying up brewpub equipment left and right from the states (it is dirt cheap after the late 90's when a good number of pubs went under after the boom was over) as well they have been bringing in American and German trained brewers to show them how to use the equipment. The Chinese have been hiring American and German trained brewers left and right to come in and show them what is what and once they figure it out and start to feel a bit adventurous you will see the results.

The Chinese I expect to be putting out some serious amounts of beer as well as a good number of their products will probably be made with a soy base. I have had a few soy beers and surprisingly they have a very clean taste. One small brewer in my area is actually exporting (they are the first US Brewery to do so) a soy based beer they are making to China.

Africa is also putting out some good beers and for those who have or know someone with Coeliac you should have them try beer brewed using only Sorghum. It is either VERY low in gluten or has no gluten in the final product depending on whether they used any other cereal grains. A good number of African breweries are making them and with SAB (South African Breweries) having bought our Miller awhile back that means some of those beers are making it to the US market.

[Q]

Hey, are we talkin' Asian Beer?? Sounds familiar. I remember Running Deer, Some of the Thai beers in the litre bottles. Now sold in the states and I'll be darned if I can remember the name (too much beer I suppose). Yeah, the Germans got around didn't they? Brewmonkey could probably talk for hours on that one. Only makes since, if you want good beer call a German to help you get it going. I did get ahold of some beer in Kenya, I think some of the guys have already mentioned it. White Star is one. The beer was real good but you had to know how to drink it. I think it is the only beer I've drank with chunks of something in the bottom. Now I've gotten some in other places with a little residue in the bottom but this African stuff was like a ball of slim. You stayed sober 'cuz you were afraid of swollowing it. Plus we were making nice with the Masai Tribesmen, nice guys! "Q".

[CPTAUSRET]

Originally Posted by HOLLiS

Another pretty good beer is Ba Ma Ba (33)

Ba Ma Ba (33), "Tiger Piss", that is not the one that made you blind (albeit temporarily), is it?

Terry

[HOLLiS]

Originally Posted by CPTAUSRET

Ba Ma Ba (33), "Tiger Piss", that is not the one that made you blind (albeit temporarily), is it?

Terry

No Sir, never drank it in the puddle.... what made me go blind in the puddle was Carlings BlackLabel, the Beer that made Viet-Nam Famous............. that stuff was death warmed over. Visited some RVN Buddies in Colorado, and hoisted a few 33's...

Another Asian beer, TsingTao (SP)...

H.

[CPTAUSRET]

Originally Posted by HOLLiS

No Sir, never drank it in the puddle.... what made me go blind in the puddle was Carlings BlackLabel, the Beer that made Viet-Nam Famous............. that stuff was death warmed over. Visited some RVN Buddies in Colorado, and hoisted a few 33's...

Another Asian beer, TsingTao (SP)...

H.

re the Carlings black label, sometimes that stuff sat in conex's in 115 degree heat for months, and we still drank it cause that was what we had. Sometimes we drank it at 115 degrees w/out cooling, cause that was what we had.

I remember drinking Martini's one day, sans Ice, sans Vermouth, sans olives, just (piss hot) Beefeaters Gin...

Terry

[HOLLiS]

Originally Posted by CPTAUSRET

re the Carlings black label, sometimes that stuff sat in conex's in 115 degree heat for months, and we still drank it cause that was what we had. Sometimes we drank it at 115 degrees w/out cooling, cause that was what we had.

I remember drinking Martini's one day, sans Ice, sans Vermouth, sans olives, just (piss hot) Beefeaters Gin...

Terry

115, maybe more like 150. We drank all night and sang to "we gotta get out of this place" Byrds? It was some of the best of times. Cans would spray the over head... But we didn't care any beer was good beer. Good Brothers are hard to come by.

H.