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View Poll Results: What is the current status of Bin Ladin?
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Alive, but Bin Hidin'
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Alive, and actively leading AQ
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09-06-2007, 17:42
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09-06-2007, 18:03
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09-07-2007, 09:16
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Left wing stupidity?
Left wing stupidity?
Read the first line of this ABC "news" item.
Are all of ABC's reader's just plain stupid, gullible, ignorant, etc.? I've little doubt the left wing news media has a desire to make news not report it….. and those poor morons that read it….. drink up, here's you daily kool-aid.
"Reading the news-101" should be a required course.
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New Videotape From Bin Laden; Al Qaeda's No. 1 Still Alive
September 07, 2007 9:23 AM
Brian Ross Reports:
Intelligence sources tell ABC News they believe the expected video message from Osama bin Laden is authentic, recently produced and evidence the al Qaeda leader is still alive.
U.S. authorities now say they have a transcript which they say is aimed at potential suicide bombers who he urges to carry out missions against the West.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/...deotape-f.html
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09-07-2007, 10:57
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If everyone was smart enough to do News reading 101 they would be out of a job. I started reading and stopped at those words. 
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09-07-2007, 11:11
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"Intelligence sources tell ABC News they believe the expected video message from Osama bin Laden is authentic, recently produced and evidence the al Qaeda leader is still alive."
OK gentlemen and ladies, take your pick....
1. The Intelligence sources are not very intelligent?
2. ABC News doesn't have a source but wants to add so weight to the story?
3. ABC News wants OBL to be alive?
4. ABC New is full of $hit!
Jim
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09-07-2007, 13:51
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You left out 5. All of the above.
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09-07-2007, 14:01
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Just saw the video. Terribly out of focus. Also it appears Bin Laden went to the salon and had all his hair dyed black again  .
The eyes don't look right to me... but it's hard to tell with the graininess of the video. I haven't heard if the video has been authenticated yet (by someone other than ABC... lol). Anyone else?
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09-07-2007, 18:14
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You left out 5. All of the above.
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Rich,
I am choosing "5" too. (maybe a few more colorful metaphors)
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09-07-2007, 18:33
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Finally proof he is alive. Now all I need is a video of George and Rudy planting C4 in the World Trade Center. HA HA HA.....perhaps now TS will not be so sure OBL is dead.........I just knew it!
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09-07-2007, 19:13
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If real, possibly a "fake beard" as he is clean shaven and living in another area where beards are not the norm and would aid in his hiding!!!
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09-07-2007, 20:20
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I'm not yet convinced.
We shall see. 
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09-07-2007, 20:20
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Originally Posted by Michelle
Just saw the video. Terribly out of focus. Also it appears Bin Laden went to the salon and had all his hair dyed black again .
The eyes don't look right to me... but it's hard to tell with the graininess of the video. I haven't heard if the video has been authenticated yet (by someone other than ABC... lol). Anyone else?
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Here's the funny part. MSNBC ran a picture of what UBL looked like in his last video and what "he" looks like in this one.
So in 4 years he had the time to change the color of his beard but changing out of the same clothes was a bridge too far?
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09-20-2007, 11:07
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I'm not sure if I've been convinced to change my vote because the audio analyses isn't done - but using a montage of recycled footage seems very telling of his condition (dead or nearly there).
Bin Laden Declares War on Musharraf in New Audiotape
Thursday , September 20, 2007
CAIRO, Egypt —
Usama bin Laden's call for a rebellion in Pakistan is a "serious" threat, U.S. officials said Thursday, noting that President Pervez Musharraf already is facing difficulties at home.
In a new audio message posted by an Islamic Web site, the Al Qaeda chief said Musharraf's military siege of a militant mosque stronghold earlier this year made him an infidel.
The storming of the Red Mosque in Islamabad in July "demonstrated Musharraf's insistence on continuing his loyalty, submissiveness and aid to America against the Muslims ... and makes armed rebellion against him and removing him obligatory," bin Laden said in the tape.
"So when the capability is there, it is obligatory to rebel against the apostate ruler, as is the case now," he said, according to a transcript of the tape released by Laura Mansfield, an American terror expert who monitors militant message traffic.
Bin Laden's voice was heard over video showing previously released footage of the terror leader. U.S. officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity said the audio was being analyzed but noted there had never been a "fake" bin Laden or Zawahiri tape.
The message, titled "Come to Jihad," was the third from bin Laden this month in a flurry of videos and audiotapes marking the sixth anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks in the United States.
Continued...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,297401,00.html
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09-21-2007, 18:37
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If Bin Laden is still alive—and we must assume that he is—he is holed up, along with his lieutenants, somewhere in the Hindu Kush mountains on the Pakistani border. The problem is that even with all of Musharraf's pledges of support, he has no control over the Waziristan region located between Afghanistan and Pakistan. Waziristan is rife with radical Islamists who support AQ and its leadership. Before and shortly after 9/11, Pakistan's ISI was actively funding and allowing radical madrassas to conscript youths and other muslim extremists and them send them to be trained and fight as mujahedeen in Afghanistan; first against the Soviets, then against the ethnic Tajik N. Alliance. Now, Musharraf is in a precarious position. Many of the ISI agents who operate (or are allowed to operate without being killed) in Waziristan are still sympathetic to the mujahedeen cause, and are easily assuaged. The most obvious solution is that the ISI needs to undergo a massive house cleaning; however, Musharraf already walks a tight line, having already survived numerous assassination attempts. So for him to stay in power (and continue to at least somewhat assist the U.S.) he has to play both sides. As long as Waziristan and the surrounding regions remain autonomous, both economically and militarily; there will never be a solution to the UBL or AQ leadership problem.
UBL and Zawahiri and al-Masri and whoever else don't mean shit anyway. The war on terror is a war of ideals. We must utilize our military, CIA and State Department to win the hearts and minds of the Islamic world, because the quandary isn't going anywhere soon. Putting 150,000 boots on the ground only pisses people off. We must find, fund, arm and educate opposition groups by way of ODA and CIA paramilitary insertions. Use the people within the country of interest to do their own laundry. That way it appears the change is occurring from within. After an interim gov't. is set up, the State Department smoothes out the rough edges and begins to orchestrate the erection of various bureaucracies and infrastructures. This the only way we are going to win this war of attrition, and it will take decades.
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09-23-2007, 18:41
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