10-11-2011, 22:10
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Originally posted by Abrazadereas:
I don't pity myself.
edit: And I wouldn't want you to either. Spare it, just in case the sun was shining really bright this morning and you got a little giddy.
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Abrazadereas
OK. I have calmed down a bit since your last post and Robert Daly saying “Mea Culpa” has also improved my disposition.
Do not take my post in any manner other than that which I intend. I am not being accusatory or mean. Everything that I write henceforth in this post (until I tell you differently) is in an even, mild mannered tone. Think of me now as a favorite uncle offering you advice that may just help you survive in this forum and maybe even in other situations in which you may find yourself in life. If you are serious about trying to follow in the footsteps of the QP’s on this forum you may want to read this carefully.
When I first enlisted in the Army for Special Forces (about 10 years before you were born) there was virtually no information available with which to G-2 (learn in advance) what the course and the SF way of life was all about. The recruiter’s knew nothing about it (no matter what they said), there were no books, no television documentaries nor web sites. The information that you did get was either woefully inadequate or completely incorrect. Back then you just did what you were told as it came to you and drove on.
This website is available to help you make it through the course and achieve the first of many goals that you say that you desire to achieve, but I see you pissing it away with almost every post that you write. Here you need only follow some basic rules such as good grammar, spelling, searching to see if your question has already been answered and not making dumb-ass comments about things that you presently know nothing about. To me those rules do not seem too difficult to follow when compared to the reward that you will receive for following them. Breaking these simple rules will merely get you banned from the site. On an ODA the rules are somewhat more stringent and breaking the rules could get you killed or, even worse, get someone else killed.
On this web site there are many individuals that have done that which you seek to do and individuals that are still doing it, many of both types presently working in the various stages of the Qualification Course that you wish to attend. Do you really think that you will not be remembered and pointed out for your attitude, flakiness and lack of Situational Awareness? Special Forces is a very small community and news travels fast. I am not saying that you will be black-balled, but you will be given extra scrutiny and I can guarantee you that the extra scrutiny of which I speak will not be helpful to you while trying to complete the Q-Course.
Simply put, ODA’s do not need the kind of individual that you are presently showing us that you are. They have neither the time nor the inclination to teach you to write, speak and act in the manner that you will need to in order to assist an ODA in its mission. In order to make it on an ODA the rest of the Detachment members need to be able to depend on you to do your job correctly and cover their collective asses while they do their job and cover your ass. Did you happen to notice that inter-dependency? Presently I do not think that there is a QP in this forum that feels as if they can depend on you to pull your head out of your ass and act normally, never mind depend on you in a firefight.
If you truly wish to attempt becoming an SF soldier straighten yourself out and stop acting like a street punk. It is neither funny nor appreciated here and I can guarantee you that it will not be appreciated in the Q-Course nor on an ODA.
Presently, I do not pity you at all. I envy you, but only because of your age. I just wish that I was your age again so I could do it all over again.
Favorite uncle voice turned off.
For your information I wake up giddy every morning whether the sun is shining or not. And believe me when I tell you this…
You could not handle my giddiness!
And by the way, that is the last strike that I will offer you.
Tress
P.S. -- This has always bothered me about your screen name. I think that you spelled it incorrectly. Should it not be “Abrazaderas”. I may not have used my Spanish much in the last few years but I think you have one too many e’s in there.
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10-12-2011, 01:32
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#77
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Originally Posted by Tress
Abrazadereas
OK. I have calmed down a bit since your last post and Robert Daly saying “Mea Culpa” has also improved my disposition.
Do not take my post in any manner other than that which I intend. I am not being accusatory or mean. Everything that I write henceforth in this post (until I tell you differently) is in an even, mild mannered tone. Think of me now as a favorite uncle offering you advice that may just help you survive in this forum and maybe even in other situations in which you may find yourself in life. If you are serious about trying to follow in the footsteps of the QP’s on this forum you may want to read this carefully.
When I first enlisted in the Army for Special Forces (about 10 years before you were born) there was virtually no information available with which to G-2 (learn in advance) what the course and the SF way of life was all about. The recruiter’s knew nothing about it (no matter what they said), there were no books, no television documentaries nor web sites. The information that you did get was either woefully inadequate or completely incorrect. Back then you just did what you were told as it came to you and drove on.
This website is available to help you make it through the course and achieve the first of many goals that you say that you desire to achieve, but I see you pissing it away with almost every post that you write. Here you need only follow some basic rules such as good grammar, spelling, searching to see if your question has already been answered and not making dumb-ass comments about things that you presently know nothing about. To me those rules do not seem too difficult to follow when compared to the reward that you will receive for following them. Breaking these simple rules will merely get you banned from the site. On an ODA the rules are somewhat more stringent and breaking the rules could get you killed or, even worse, get someone else killed.
On this web site there are many individuals that have done that which you seek to do and individuals that are still doing it, many of both types presently working in the various stages of the Qualification Course that you wish to attend. Do you really think that you will not be remembered and pointed out for your attitude, flakiness and lack of Situational Awareness? Special Forces is a very small community and news travels fast. I am not saying that you will be black-balled, but you will be given extra scrutiny and I can guarantee you that the extra scrutiny of which I speak will not be helpful to you while trying to complete the Q-Course.
Simply put, ODA’s do not need the kind of individual that you are presently showing us that you are. They have neither the time nor the inclination to teach you to write, speak and act in the manner that you will need to in order to assist an ODA in its mission. In order to make it on an ODA the rest of the Detachment members need to be able to depend on you to do your job correctly and cover their collective asses while they do their job and cover your ass. Did you happen to notice that inter-dependency? Presently I do not think that there is a QP in this forum that feels as if they can depend on you to pull your head out of your ass and act normally, never mind depend on you in a firefight.
If you truly wish to attempt becoming an SF soldier straighten yourself out and stop acting like a street punk. It is neither funny nor appreciated here and I can guarantee you that it will not be appreciated in the Q-Course nor on an ODA.
Presently, I do not pity you at all. I envy you, but only because of your age. I just wish that I was your age again so I could do it all over again.
Favorite uncle voice turned off.
For your information I wake up giddy every morning whether the sun is shining or not. And believe me when I tell you this…
You could not handle my giddiness!
And by the way, that is the last strike that I will offer you.
Tress
P.S. -- This has always bothered me about your screen name. I think that you spelled it incorrectly. Should it not be “Abrazaderas”. I may not have used my Spanish much in the last few years but I think you have one too many e’s in there.
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Hey Tress,this kid sounds like he's hockey timber to me,let's put him on a pair of skates and show him how the game is played............
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I believe that SF is a 'calling' - not too different from the calling missionaries I know received. I knew instantly that it was for me, and that I would do all I could to achieve it. Most others I know in SF experienced something similar. If, as you say, you HAVE searched and read, and you do not KNOW if this is the path for you --- it is not....
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SF is a calling and it requires commitment and dedication that the uninitiated will never understand......
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10-12-2011, 08:15
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#78
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Quote:
Originally posted by Abrazadereas:
Yes, sir. I am sincerely and personally grateful for even being thought about for one second by you, or any other QP. I don't deserve it.
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In the immortal words of BrickTop from the movie "Snatch",
"Pull your tongue out of my arsehole. Dogs do that! You are not a dog, are you?"
Man-up!!!! We do not suffer pussies well either.
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Yes, it frustrated me as well. I didn't want to bother anyone to change it, looking further like an idiot after the initial idiot typo and the subsequent idiot behavior.
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Well, the cat is out of the bag now. Ask one of the Moderators to change it for you.
Tress
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"Liberals claim to be open to hearing other peoples' views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." - William F. Buckley, Jr.
Last edited by Tress; 10-12-2011 at 09:38.
Reason: Making the quote more accurate
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11-16-2011, 16:06
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Blood type
Do any of you think there is any validity in the theory that blood type corresponds to personality at all? If they're are right, I can imagine there be some kind of correlation between blood type and occupations/career choices just like the correlation between NPY and QP's.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...-say-about-you
http://askville.amazon.com/blood-typ...estId=32895607
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11-16-2011, 16:47
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Good-goobily-gooooo!
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11-16-2011, 17:07
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SB8734
I believe you may have harnessed the power of Dynamic Inertia!
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11-16-2011, 19:50
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This from the SF-List: Harold Johnson (former Chief of Staff) is quoted as saying that the Green Berets in Vietnam were "fugitives from responsibility. These were people that some how or other tended to be non-conformists, couldn't get along in a straight military system, and found a haven where their actions were not scrutinized too carefully, and where they came under only sporadic or intermittent observation from the regular chain of command." And, wrote the authors: "The culture clash was so great that many Green Berets took Johnson's comments as a compliment."
He forgot the Rolex, etc. Generals have their place, and so do we.
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11-17-2011, 10:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SP5IC
"The culture clash was so great that many Green Berets took Johnson's comments as a compliment."
He forgot the Rolex, etc. Generals have their place, and so do we.
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It wasn't a compliment?
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11-17-2011, 11:06
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Originally Posted by SB8734
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Are you STILL here?
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11-17-2011, 14:00
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I believe that SF is a 'calling' - not too different from the calling missionaries I know received. I knew instantly that it was for me, and that I would do all I could to achieve it. Most others I know in SF experienced something similar. If, as you say, you HAVE searched and read, and you do not KNOW if this is the path for you --- it is not....
Zonie Diver
SF is a calling and it requires commitment and dedication that the uninitiated will never understand......
Jack Moroney
SFA M-2527, Chapter XXXVII
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11-17-2011, 14:02
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Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference
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I guess Johnson went down the well traveled road.
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11-17-2011, 18:10
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I always found that the closer I was to the flag pole, the more trouble I got into. 500 miles was usually a safe distance...
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11-17-2011, 18:57
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Any early indicators from the adolescent years?
Getting into more fights than the average young male, playing malicious pranks on the neighbors, playing with BB guns and fireworks, challenging authority, getting into trouble at school, doing risky things on a dare, drinking beer, etc.
Last edited by mojaveman; 11-17-2011 at 19:00.
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11-17-2011, 20:28
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Originally Posted by mojaveman
Any early indicators from the adolescent years?
Getting into more fights than the average young male, playing malicious pranks on the neighbors, playing with BB guns and fireworks, challenging authority, getting into trouble at school, doing risky things on a dare, drinking beer, etc.
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We're not freaking delinquents.
Check out the "Did boy Scouts help you in SF" thread. We have a very high number of Eagle Scouts and Life Scouts who profess not sticking with it to complete the requirements for Eagle as their ONLY regret (or one of the few).
Just cuz some General who didn't understand what he was seeing . . .
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11-17-2011, 21:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dozer523
We're not freaking delinquents.
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No angels either, at least not some of the enlisted folk I knew.
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