Wuhan Coronavirus

[Pete]

Fake news at it again. Must pump the fear factor.

CBS News Caught Using Footage from an Italian Hospital to Describe Conditions in New York City (VIDEO)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...rk-city-video/

"...CBS News painted a dire picture from New York City this week in their coronavirus coverage.

On Wednesday morning CBS aired this footage from a New York hospital.

The footage matches SKY News video from inside an Italian hospital from Sunday March 22....."

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by miclo18d

Not sure if this has been posted yet. I can’t go thru each post.

Thanks bigtime for that. Tagged.
I wonder how many 'signups' they've had in the last month with a professional perspective checkbox of 'Other/None'. Good resource.

[Stobey]

This post isn't about numbers. It is first-hand info from an ER doc in New Orleans. This may be very interesting to all docs here. (Personally, I don't like what I've read here, particularly the "bilateral interstitial pneumonia".)

"I am an ER MD in New Orleans. Class of 98. Every one of my colleagues have now seen several hundred Covid 19 patients and this is what I think I know..."

https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3102444

[doctom54]

Originally Posted by PSM

I saw something similar, but I'm also reading tweets and other direct sources that are saying that there are hospitals in NY that have no COVID-19 patients. Is there a reason (government order perhaps) that patients can't be transferred to other hospitals?

Two actually.
First it ties up an ambulance, and civilian ambulances can only transport one at a time, that then has to be appropriately cleaned.
Second, the smart way to care for these patients is in cohorts where they are all together. It minimizes the number of HCW's exposed and saves on PPE.
We have two facilities and plan on putting all COVID patients in one facility in adjoining rooms.

[Box]

Originally Posted by Pete

Fake news at it again. Must pump the fear factor.

CBS News Caught Using Footage from an Italian Hospital to Describe Conditions in New York City (VIDEO)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...rk-city-video/

"...CBS News painted a dire picture from New York City this week in their coronavirus coverage.

On Wednesday morning CBS aired this footage from a New York hospital.

The footage matches SKY News video from inside an Italian hospital from Sunday March 22....."

Nice - nothing like freedom of the press.
...and my sister in law still cant figure out why her local news reported that the hospitals where I live are being overwhelmed.

[Wiseman]

I'm wondering what the level of ACE2 expression is in COVID-19 patients that shrug off the virus with the sniffles/bed rest vs the ones that are on ventilator.

[Ret10Echo]

Originally Posted by Box

Nice - nothing like freedom of the press.
...and my sister in law still cant figure out why her local news reported that the hospitals where I live are being overwhelmed.

Truth in News died with Walter Kronkite

Click bait

[Old Dog New Trick]

Originally Posted by Wiseman

I'm wondering what the level of ACE2 expression is in COVID-19 patients that shrug off the virus with the sniffles/bed rest vs the ones that are on ventilator.

Great question.

So if I read that right and by all means someone check my understanding -

It’s not my hypertension that makes me more susceptible it’s my ACE2 inhibiting “Statin” drugs used to treat my hypertension that might make me more susceptible.

While reading up on that it is also what “Ibuprofen” does as it binds to ACE cells and causes it to be more susceptible to the protein spikes in SARS-Cov-2.

https://science.sciencemag.org/conte...6485/1444.full

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...116-8/fulltext

[Wiseman]

Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick

Great question.

So if I read that right and by all means someone check my understanding -

It’s not my hypertension that makes me more susceptible it’s my ACE2 inhibiting “Statin” drugs used to treat my hypertension that might make me more susceptible.

While reading up on that it is also what “Ibuprofen” does as it binds to ACE cells and causes it to be more susceptible to the protein spikes in SARS-Cov-2.

https://science.sciencemag.org/conte...6485/1444.full

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...116-8/fulltext

It could be something (in this case compounds) that upregulates ACE2 expression or that some people have more of those receptors naturally. It is definitely something that they could screen for if they take a lung biopsy, but that sounds very intrusive on a person who already has trouble breathing. They would have to do that on people who died and on who have recovered (voluntarily).

[WarriorDiplomat]

Social movement theory in action using the media....of course the virus is real but separating the wheat from the chaff is critical unfortunately the media is what it is.....yeah for freedom of the press. Now ask yourself who is in charge of the social responses?

The media[edit]
The media plays a crucial part in delivering social reaction. According to Stanley Cohen, there are three processes that the media expresses: Exaggeration and distortion, prediction, and symbolization.

Exaggeration and distortion[edit]
In this process, the media can "over-report" with their choice of words. For example, the word "disturbance" can be used to mean having a noise complaint due to loud music next door and a group of people acting violently by throwing rocks and setting vehicles on fire. The wording of the stories can make a minor problem seem more serious than it really is. This can make people overreact in response to relatively minor problems and may lead them to believe that disturbances, acts of terrorism, riots, and instances have the same meaning.[2][page needed]

Furthermore, the headlines used by the media might cause society to act irrationally to a story about minor issues. They can be misleading and can report information that has nothing to do with the actual story. Negative words such as "violence" can be used when there was no violence involved. The media can also point to specific characteristics that are the reason for the crime that was committed. For example, a story can discuss a murder, but the headline might focus on the hoodie the culprit was wearing. Emphasizing the hoodie will draw attention to what the person was wearing instead of the murder that took place. This causes people to become paranoid and overreact when they see someone wearing clothing that looks suspicious.[citation needed]

Prediction[edit]
This is where the media speculates that an incident might occur again. The media can report that an event will occur in the future, which is not always the case. People involved describe what should be done the next time it happens and what precautions should be taken. Predicting the future can cause people to constantly think about what could go wrong and lead to catastrophe. This can cause major stress and cause people to have social panics more often.[citation needed] However, there are certain situations where making predictions is necessary for security, such as hurricanes, earthquakes, and other natural disasters.

Symbolization[edit]
This involves stereotypes, words and images that possess symbolic powers that can cause different emotions. Symbolization can be described in three processes. It includes words such as "deviant" and, as Cohen would say, "it becomes symbolic of a certain status."[2][page needed] By this he means that the word represents something meaningful. Then the object, which can include clothing, represents the word. Therefore, the object can also symbolize the status. Neutral words can symbolize an event or emotion. For example, people can have specific feelings connected to the word "Hiroshima" that remind them of the bombing that occurred there. Furthermore, the use of labels given to a person or word puts them in a certain group in society. Those individuals that are in that group are viewed and interpreted based on their label.

Symbolization, exaggeration and distortion are similar in the sense that they both use misleading headlines that creates negative symbols. For example, images can be posed to seem more dramatic or intense than they really are. Through both of these procedures, it is easy to cause people to come to conclusions that the news and photographs always display reality.[2][page needed]

[Penn]

Just in...Lets pray this is a go.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasb.../#78662755aa66

[twistedsquid]

Reports of the constant heat blumes in Chinese crematoriums combined with the reduced cell phone activity around Wuhan suggest the Chinese death tolls are above 40,000?

[PSM]

Originally Posted by doctom54

Two actually.
First it ties up an ambulance, and civilian ambulances can only transport one at a time, that then has to be appropriately cleaned.
Second, the smart way to care for these patients is in cohorts where they are all together. It minimizes the number of HCW's exposed and saves on PPE.
We have two facilities and plan on putting all COVID patients in one facility in adjoining rooms.

The second part makes sense, but as to the first, if the need actually arises, this is where the National Guard would come in to provide air transport.

[JJ_BPK]

I had this in the back of my head, as a home solution.
Additionally, I would like to hear from the Spurts, can a typical portable O2 generator as use by COPD patients also augment home use of respirators?

Can Sleep Apnea Machines Treat COVID-19 Patients?
Article by Don Ward Hackett March 15, 2020

Fact checked by Robert Carlson, MD + 2 Updated 03/24/2020 - 19:08

March 15, 2020 – The expanding pandemic of COVID-19 disease cases in the USA could overwhelm the nation’s hospitals, which would force doctors into making respirator allocation decisions given their limited availability.

As demand grows, hospitals could sterilize and reuse ventilator tubing rather than discarding it after every patient.

And if supplies continue to run short, they could use transport ventilators or even positive airway pressure machines, similar to the devices sleep apnea patients use at home.

Furthermore, if demand continues to grow, hospitals could use sleep apnea machines, suggests George Washington University Law professor John Banzhaf, an MIT-trained engineer, and inventor.

Banzhaf suggested in an email newsletter distributed on March 15, 2020, the possibility of using existing CPAP (Continuous Positive Airway Pressure) machines, used to combat sleep apnea, as devices to help persons with respiratory problems due to coronavirus infection.

This potential use-case could fit especially in less serious cases which do not require the full power and sophistication of expensive hospital-type ventilator machines, says Banzhaf.

CPAP is a type of positive airway pressure, where the airflow is introduced into the airways to maintain a continuous pressure to constantly stent the airways open, in people who are breathing spontaneously. Positive end-expiratory pressure (PEEP) is the pressure in the alveoli above atmospheric pressure at the end of expiration.

CPAP is a way of delivering PEEP but also maintains the set pressure throughout the respiratory cycle, during both inspiration and expiration, said this NIH article published in May 2019.

Professor Banzhaf suggests these advantages of using CPAP machines:

• the number of existing CPAP machines greatly exceeds the number of hospital ventilation machines,
• they are simpler and less expensive to acquire,
• manufacturing capability can be increased far more quickly,
• CPAP machines, especially those with full-face masks, can provide a very significant increase in the amount of air (and therefore oxygen) a user can consume, and many can easily be adjusted to provide even higher air pressures than would ordinarily be required to overcome mild sleep apnea.
• those most at risk of respiratory problems from the coronavirus virus are the elderly and/or have other medical problems - are also the population most like to already have and use CPAP machines already,
• family members are therefore familiar with and comfortable with using them,
• existing CPCP users could be asked to bring their units to the hospital where they might be used,
• many CPAP units are used largely to limit snoring, and in some cases, users might be able to do without them in an emergency without risk of serious health problems such as cardiovascular events.

https://www.coronavirustoday.com/cpa...at-sleep-apnea

This is the 1st time I have seen articles from www coronavirustoday com. I hove no idea of the vilidity of content.

[doctom54]

Originally Posted by JJ_BPK

I had this in the back of my head, as a home solution.
Additionally, I would like to hear from the Spurts, can a typical portable O2 generator as use by COPD patients also augment home use of respirators?




This is the 1st time I have seen articles from www coronavirustoday com. I hove no idea of the vilidity of content.

A really really bad idea. CPAP and BiPAP and Nebulizers all aerosolize the COVID-19 and make it much more transmittable. That is exactly what happened in WA state at the LTC facility.

O2 concentrators are fine.