"Religion of Peace" Man in NY Beheads Wife

SF-TX · 02-13-2009, 20:11

Muzzammil Hassan is the founder of a Muslim TV channel that he started to combat the negative perceptions of Muslims in the US. He cut his wife's head off yesterday.

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Orchard Park police are investigating a particularly gruesome killing, the beheading of a woman, after her husband -- an influential member of the local Muslim community -- reported her death to police Thursday.

Police identified the victim as Aasiya Z. Hassan, 37. Detectives have charged her husband, Muzzammil Hassan, 44, with second-degree murder.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024821.php

nmap · 02-13-2009, 20:29

Sometimes, real life is better than any novel.

**The Reaper** · 02-13-2009, 21:33

I am shocked, shocked, I tell you.

TR

PSM · 02-13-2009, 21:39

Fine and dandy, but I bet that this is the last that we will hear of it.

Pat

Sigaba · 02-13-2009, 21:42

What does it take to get charged with first degree murder in New York state?

greenberetTFS · 02-14-2009, 02:22

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What does it take to get charged with first degree murder in New York state?

Sigaba is right on, What does t take.................

GB TFS

SF_BHT · 02-14-2009, 07:23

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Originally Posted by Sigaba

What does it take to get charged with first degree murder in New York state?

You have to be Italian

6.8SPC_DUMP · 02-18-2009, 15:52

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Originally Posted by Sigaba

What does it take to get charged with first degree murder in New York state?

Premeditation.

DA's probably thought they would have a hard time establishing it without reasonable doubt.

It's aggravating for me to think about him not getting the death penalty - but not compared to the law governing domestic conflict in some Middle East countries.

JJ_BPK · 02-14-2009, 10:52

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Originally Posted by SF-TX

Muzzammil Hassan is the founder of a Muslim TV channel that he started to combat the negative perceptions of Muslims in the US. He cut his wife's head off yesterday.

Detectives have charged her husband, Muzzammil Hassan, 44, with second-degree murder

Is this in deference to his religion or the fact that he's a famous TV personality??

Should be Murder #1

Richard · 02-14-2009, 11:10

I think religion may not have much to do with it...other than this couple just happens to be Muslim. Husbands/wives, boyfriends/girlfriends, parents/children, brothers/sisters, neighbors kill each other all the time for all kinds of reasons...regardless of religious belief or lack of it.

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Should be Murder #1

Murder 2 would probably be a slam-dunk; murder 1 may be harder to prove if it turns out to be the result of a spat w/o provable prior intent.

Richard's $.02

SF_BHT · 02-14-2009, 11:17

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Originally Posted by Richard

Murder 2 would probably be a slam-dunk; murder 1 may be harder to prove if it turns out to be the result of a spat w/o provable prior intent.

You are spot on.... The DA would rather get this to bed than take a chance and this is normal......

Defender968 · 02-14-2009, 13:35

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Originally Posted by JJ_BPK

Is this in deference to his religion or the fact that he's a famous TV personality??

Should be Murder #1

My first instincts was to agree with you so I looked up the NY state statutes for both Murder 1 and Murder 2,

Here is the murder 1 statute;

http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/me...MMONQUERY=LAWS

I'm not going to post the whole statute as it's really long. The crux is to prove murder 1 in NY it would appear you have to kill a LEO or Judge, or kill a person who testified against you in criminal court, or one of said witnesses family, or kill someone while in the commission of another violent crime like burglary, or if one had already been convicted of murder, or killed multiple people in one setting, and it goes on....the only portion of the statute that might apply to this case based on the very limited info that we have thus far is this;

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or
(x) the defendant acted in an especially cruel and wanton manner
pursuant to a course of conduct intended to inflict and inflicting
torture upon the victim prior to the victim's death. As used in this
subparagraph, "torture" means the intentional and depraved infliction of
extreme physical pain; "depraved" means the defendant relished the
infliction of extreme physical pain upon the victim evidencing
debasement or perversion or that the defendant evidenced a sense of
pleasure in the infliction of extreme physical pain;

I don't know if the above would fit the crime, it would be highly dependent on the facts, specifically how and when he cut her head off, if she was already dead when he did it etc. The defense could argue that while the defendant’s behavior was gruesome and egregious it doesn't meet the intention of the above statute if the victim was already dead.

In any case it would appear to me that this isn't a case of a prosecuter being PC but rather simply the way the NY statutes are written, of course I'm not a lawyer if any of our resident counsels have a different view I'd like to hear their thoughts on the matter.

HQ6 · 02-14-2009, 13:59

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Originally Posted by JJ_BPK

Is this in deference to his religion or the fact that he's a famous TV personality??

Should be Murder #1

Nah.. he is just misunderstood. If we really took the time to get to know him and his peaceful religious practices, we would see that he didn't really mean it.

JJ_BPK · 02-14-2009, 11:28

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Authorities say Aasiya Hassan recently had filed for divorce from her husband.

"She had an order of protection that had him out of the home as of Friday the 6th [of February]," Benz said.

??? prior violence ???

He does not want me on his jury...

Richard · 02-14-2009, 11:35

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??? prior violence ???

I didn't say 'violence' -

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...w/o provable prior intent.

Richard's $.02