Rifle Scope Needed

[Gene Econ]

Originally Posted by longrange1947

Also agree with Mark's recommendations on the slings. Instant trivia, what does MRT stand for on the old military leather slings?

Rick:

Slings are the invention of Satan IMHO. 'Expecially' that M-1907.

Get a canvas M-1 Garand sling at a gun show for eight dollars. Get four or five in fact as they aren't 'mildew resistant'. Or be smart and buy one of Mike's cuff slings.

I recall breaking several MRT slings when blasting with the coveted M-14. Broke four or five sling swivels which is a testament to the MRT sling's strength. Bent them and finally pulled them out of that little thingee that holds them to the forend. Only once did I pull the studs holding the sling swivel out of the forend of an M-14. Ripped it from the wooden stock. Tough to repair but it has held up.

I believe I have defined 'hold hard'.

Use a cuff sling if you want to shoot unsupported. If you want to blast from a bipod -- buy a Garand canvas sling for eight bucks and latch on to it with the non firing hand and pull back into the shoulder -- same as the old automatic rifleman stuff of Rick's era. Lord Have Mercy.

Oh yes -- Mark Carey -- like you can drop me a line maybe?

Gene

[longrange1947]

Gene - I use the old canvas sling for comp. A slight modification and it is a great little adjustable sling. Many do not like it as it is not "high speed".

I need to try and post a picture of the sling with the mod so others can see how it works. IT is legal as a military sling for service rifle competition.

[Gene Econ]

Originally Posted by longrange1947

Gene - I use the old canvas sling for comp. A slight modification and it is a great little adjustable sling. Many do not like it as it is not "high speed". I need to try and post a picture of the sling with the mod so others can see how it works. IT is legal as a military sling for service rifle competition.

Rick:

That is what I am talking about. M-1 Garand canvas sling. Cost is eight to ten dollars at a gun show. I know the technique you use with this type of sling and use it myself. I have worn out some due to fraying but so what at ten dollars a copy? A high speed leather sling costs fifty bucks and is a pain in the ass to adjust while in position.

I have a couple of Sling M-1907's with the coveted MRT coating sitting around in the packages somewhere. I recall maybe fifteen or twenty years ago that we got a bunch of these that were about a foot too short. Couldn't even use them with an M-16. Probably some bureaucrat thought they could save money by using less leather and the coveted MRT impregnation that doesn't work. I doubt you could sling up with one of those if you used a M-4 and were a "Little Person".

Merry Christmas to All and to All a Good Night!

Gene

[irnbndr]

For what it is worth, I prefer not to spend alot on glass. I have a 4-12x40Leupold VX II on my hunting rig. (Remington 700 classic (BDL), 7mm Rem Mag). I hunt both mule deer and whitetail, ususally taking shots from 150m to 300m. My "medium range" AR-15 has a Leupold MK IV 4.5-14x40 mildot reticle. I shoot paper out to 600m with that weapon due to the lack of ranges with anything deeper.

For a beginner, these scopes will suit you perfectly. Anything more and you are wasting your money IMO.

I would agree with others who have posted here stating that iron sights would serve you best until you know your weapon and are able to aquire the neccessary muscle memory for accurate shooting.
Happy shooting!

[Gene Econ]

Originally Posted by irnbndr

I would agree with others who have posted here stating that iron sights would serve you best until you know your weapon and are able to aquire the neccessary muscle memory for accurate shooting.
Happy shooting!

IRN:

What is muscle memory in terms of marksmanship?

LR1955

[frostfire]

Originally Posted by Gene Econ

Rick:

That is what I am talking about. M-1 Garand canvas sling. Cost is eight to ten dollars at a gun show. I know the technique you use with this type of sling and use it myself.

Gene Econ Sir,

is the technique you and Rick mentioned different than this
(copy and paste) ray-vin.com/tech/websling/webslinghelp.htm

[longrange1947]

It is similar but I pull the running end of the sling through the first buckle. This produces a sling loop that tightens as you apply pressure to the loop and you can still use the quick adjust buckle. Leaving the rear clip allows the sling to be snapped into the rear sling swivel for standing offhand.

It is hard to explain and would require a couple of photos. My sling is out at work and I will not return to work until 5 Jan so can not take photos until then.

[GratefulCitizen]

This thread was the closest I could find, but still couldn't find an answer.
Google-fu is failing as well.

Anyone ever heard of a Leupold Vari-x iii with a 34mm tube?
Older or custom perhaps?

[Justinmd]

Leupold's only 34mm scope of which I am aware is their one of their newer "PSR" type scopes. It is not a vari-x III. You can recognize this scope because the turrets are the size of soup cans, and there is a little button on top that you have to push down to turn the turrets.
Justin

[Buffalobob]

They have several 34mm scopes now in the military tactical models plus the discontinued VX-7L. But as far as the older VariXs I never heard nor saw one in 34mm but I never made it my business to keep track of scopes.

[GratefulCitizen]

34mm on the VX-3 not an option at the Leupold custom shop, either.
Nonetheless, the one in my possession seems to be such a creature.

Maybe the custom shop used to do it.
<shrug>

If it proves to work well, I'll have no complaints.

[Buffalobob]

Make sure it is not a knock off clone.

[longrange1947]

Some of the military scopes, based on the varX-3 series have been in 34 but I thought they were not for sale and only X models. Gives them more travel and a little more rugged. May be what you have. Could be abd clone as well though.

On a side note, you guys need to take a look at the new Bushell tactical series. Nice scope and the price is in the ball park of the average guy. Ihave looked at them and would own one before a Night Force anyday.

Needs a bit more work before perfect but so does most items.

[mark46th]

RL- It has been 2 1/2 years since you started this thread. Where and how are you shooting? I'm in the LA area and Burro Canyon is about the only range still open.

[dadof18x'er]

Originally Posted by mark46th

RL- It has been 2 1/2 years since you started this thread. Where and how are you shooting? I'm in the LA area and Burro Canyon is about the only range still open.

RL, what did you end up with? what did you learn?