01-08-2006, 09:09
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Yep, it's a Zeiss and I had it mounted and bore sighted yesterday.
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01-08-2006, 12:36
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Which one, and let me know how you like it. 
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01-14-2006, 14:08
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Zeiss Conquest 4.5 x 14
I was impressed this afternoon after shooting with it for the first time. At 100 yards you could put a quarter over the groups. Did I "pull" one or two rounds out of the 9 groups I fired? You betcha, but the glass and rifle did fine IMHO.
Maybe I'm just lucky. I'd rather be lucky than good.
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01-17-2006, 15:47
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First off, excellent choice on the .270! I hunt deer, groundhogs, and shoot target with a Rem .270 Sendaro back in PA. It's often an overlooked round. SIDE NOTE: I didn't think you could hunt deer in OH with a rifle anymore? I though it was only shotgun.
Anyway, as far as a scope, I'd go with a Leupold 4.5-14x50mm VX-III. I like the quality and the price. Your profile says your from Ohio, that's a lot like PA where I grew up and hunt whitetail every winter. Even if you are hunting fields 14x will be plenty and 4.5 will be alright for the running shots if it's not right on you. Thats what they make iron sights for right. This coming from a guy who used is 6.5-20x to hunt deer a few years back and shot one at 15 yards. I used that gun to hunt groundhogs all summer and I could pull up on 20x and be right on what I wanted to hit so I felt comfortable using it. I only use a flintlock anymore.
The 14x might be a little low for target but with the slightly higher resolution the 50mm system give you I don't think it won't be much of an issue. I you weren't using it for target I'd go with the 3.5-10 hands down.
Just my thoughts...
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01-17-2006, 20:04
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You are correct, shotgun only in Ohio for deer. I went to S.C. this past year where rifles are allowed for hunting them.
I can't shoot deer in Ohio with a rifle but I can shoot ground hogs all day long in Ohio with a rifle. Go figure.
I've liked the .270 every since I read Jack O'Connor's articles about the round.
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01-17-2006, 23:34
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Shotty on deer? That's just wrong.
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01-18-2006, 03:01
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New scopes headed this way also for test weapons, the S&B PMII 5-25x56 and S&B PMII 1.1-4x20 Short Dot.
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01-18-2006, 07:41
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You are correct, shotgun only in Ohio for deer. I went to S.C. this past year where rifles are allowed for hunting them.
I can't shoot deer in Ohio with a rifle but I can shoot ground hogs all day long in Ohio with a rifle. Go figure.
I've liked the .270 every since I read Jack O'Connor's articles about the round.
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Doc, while you were in S.C., did you happen to witness deer hunting with dogs? It's quite a sight. They use shotguns loaded with buckshot. A bunch of guys line up on a road, just within shotgun range of each other. They usually get dressed in camo, and then sit on a swivel chair in the back of their trucks parked along the side of the public roads. Another "hunter" releases the dogs some distance away, on the other side of the selected field. The dogs chase the deer towards the guys on the road. As the deer run across the road between the guys sitting on their trucks, they open fire. I actually participated in this once, but the buckshot whizzing by my head kinda scared me away from it. As a matter of fact, there are so many dumbass hunters here, I don't get into the woods during hunting season anymore, unless I'm on a private hunt club. Even then, stupidity abounds.
In one hunt club I belonged to a few years back, we were sitting around the fire after the day's hunt. One of the guys mentioned that he took a "good sound shot" . I asked him where his deer was. He said " I don't know if it was a deer". I said" I thought you made a sound shot?". He said, " I did. I heard a sound in the woods behind me and shot at it". I got up and left.
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01-18-2006, 17:46
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Doc, while you were in S.C., did you happen to witness deer hunting with dogs? It's quite a sight. They use shotguns loaded with buckshot. A bunch of guys line up on a road, just within shotgun range of each other. They usually get dressed in camo, and then sit on a swivel chair in the back of their trucks parked along the side of the public roads. Another "hunter" releases the dogs some distance away, on the other side of the selected field. The dogs chase the deer towards the guys on the road. As the deer run across the road between the guys sitting on their trucks, they open fire. I actually participated in this once, but the buckshot whizzing by my head kinda scared me away from it. As a matter of fact, there are so many dumbass hunters here, I don't get into the woods during hunting season anymore, unless I'm on a private hunt club. Even then, stupidity abounds.
In one hunt club I belonged to a few years back, we were sitting around the fire after the day's hunt. One of the guys mentioned that he took a "good sound shot" . I asked him where his deer was. He said " I don't know if it was a deer". I said" I thought you made a sound shot?". He said, " I did. I heard a sound in the woods behind me and shot at it". I got up and left.
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Interesting post on a couple of fronts. I have driven by and seen people deer hunting with dogs in S.C. and N.C. I don't do that sort of thing but it's legal in some counties and to each his own. I was fortunate on this last trip. Three of us got to hunt by ourselves on 3500 acres of private land next to the Savannah River.
I will bow hunt on public land during the bow only season but not gun hunt on public lands due to safety concerns. I was almost shot by an O-3 years ago on Bragg and don't want to ever experience that sort of thing again.
I've heard of sound shots before and it's the most dangerous thing I've heard a "hunter" say in my life. You did the right thing by walking off from the individual that said that.
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01-18-2006, 19:26
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Shotty on deer? That's just wrong.
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Better for congested areas, shot doesn't travel as far.
The hunter has to get closer to the deer, and/or learn to use slugs.
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01-18-2006, 20:24
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Better for congested areas, shot doesn't travel as far.
The hunter has to get closer to the deer, and/or learn to use slugs.
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I really don't like the idea of using shot on deer. They deserve a clean kill and the average hunter probably can't deliver that consistently with shot. Slugs are another matter, but if you are good enough to stalk within range (or patient enough to freeze in your stand), why not just take it up a notch and go with black powder? Now THAT's hunting.
BTW, I am not against high-powered rifles with optics for larger game or long distances, they're just not my choice for your garden variety deer.
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01-19-2006, 07:03
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I've heard of sound shots before and it's the most dangerous thing I've heard a "hunter" say in my life. You did the right thing by walking off from the individual that said that.
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Well, I did manage to condense every profanity known to man into one sentence as I was leaving....
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01-19-2006, 07:11
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Better for congested areas, shot doesn't travel as far.
The hunter has to get closer to the deer, and/or learn to use slugs.
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Makes sense. I didn't think of it because we don't have that problem here...have to watch out for the Deerstalkers Assoc. though. A lot of them seem to be the blast away at any movement/noise types. I don't assocciate with them.
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