01-01-2013, 21:02
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Too much seethe-ing going on around here. Take a chill pill folks.
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Chill pill taken! Ah.... that's better. 
Glad your son's okay, Dozer. I hope it was a lesson well-learned, and one that sticks with him.
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01-02-2013, 00:30
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The Journal News is Armed and Dangerous
Guns are good for the goose but NOT for the gander.
A Clarkstown police report issued on December 28, 2012, confirmed that The Journal News has hired armed security guards from New City-based RGA Investigations and that they are manning the newspaper’s Rockland County headquarters at 1 Crosfield Ave., West Nyack, through at least tomorrow, Wednesday, January 2, 2013.
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01-02-2013, 13:38
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Unintended Consequences
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Guns are good for the goose but NOT for the gander.
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It is not clear whether the negative reaction has threatened the Journal News’ true popularity as a news source. As an anecdotal piece of evidence, the Rockland County Times confirms receiving an influx of new subscribers who stated they cancelled their subscription to the Journal News due to the gun story.
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Is this a great country, or what?
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01-02-2013, 17:39
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Is this a great country, or what?
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It can be at times.
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01-02-2013, 18:34
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The Hypocrites at Westchester Journal News hire armed guards.
LOL, they hired armed guards to "protect" the activists that worked on the story. LOL
Hypocrites.......
Gannett owns armytimes don't they? Maybe this boycott should be a whole lot bigger.
Gunfight: Newspaper's decision to out firearms owners sparks ongoing battle
Published January 02, 2013
FoxNews.com
Now it is the advertisers and readers of a New York newspaper who are caught in the crossfire, after its controversial decision to publish the names and addresses of gun owners in its community.
The initial story by the Westchester Journal News on Dec. 22 prompted a bitter backlash by gun advocates, who published the names and addresses of some of the newspaper’s staff. Since then, supporters and critics of the newspaper's controversial stand have been taking potshots at each other in a near-daily exchange that has drawn national attention.
“The data posted also includes active and retired police officers, judges, battered and stalked individuals, FBI agents, and more," the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association said in a release that marked the latest escalation. "The Journal News has made no credible case, nor offered any valid reason, for releasing the data, and it serves no investigative or journalistic purpose. It merely invites harassment and burglary.”
The association is calling for a possible boycott of the Gannett-owned newspaper's national advertisers. But the paper isn't just worried about suffering economic harm. On Dec. 28, it began posting armed guards outside one of its offices, according to local police, shortly after a blogger published the names and home addresses of the 50 journalists who worked on the interactive map showing who owned legally-registered guns.
And the battle shows no signs of subsiding. Hackers claim to have broken into the Journal News' online subscriber database and say they're circulating passwords and user information for 10,000 account holders. They have also made online threats to publish the home addresses and phone numbers of executives at the newspaper’s major advertisers.
One New York lawmaker said he plans to introduce legislation making it illegal to obtain gun permit holders’ information through Freedom of Information Act requests, which is how the Journal News obtained the permit holders’ information used to create their controversial online database.
“The Journal News has placed the lives of these folks at risk by creating a virtual shopping list for criminals and nut jobs,” said Republican State Sen. Greg Ball, in announcing his intent.
There is one apparent beneficiary of all the controversy: The paper's competitor, the Rockland County Times, claimed in an article to have seen an "influx of new subscribers who stated they canceled their subscription to the Journal News due to the gun story.”
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/02...#ixzz2GrrWfIFd
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01-02-2013, 19:19
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And there is always this to consider...
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01-02-2013, 20:24
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And there is always this to consider...
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Pretty soon, many of us could be criminals, by virtue of proposed legislation.
TR
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01-02-2013, 21:10
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And the battle shows no signs of subsiding. Hackers claim to have broken into the Journal News' online subscriber database and say they're circulating passwords and user information for 10,000 account holders. They have also made online threats to publish the home addresses and phone numbers of executives at the newspaper’s major advertisers.
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This can't be good for the newspaper.
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01-02-2013, 22:43
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01-03-2013, 08:14
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My mom always said that when you point a finger at others you have several pointing back at you. Guess she was right as these people are finding out.
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01-03-2013, 18:19
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This can't be good for the newspaper.
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Who cares about publishing the addresses and phone numbers of the execs. Let them see what it feels like to have your privacy violated in such a manner.
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01-03-2013, 19:45
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To clarify.. I meant it will hurt them, (which is them in turn reaping what they sew)
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01-04-2013, 23:35
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I am so much happier in Texas!
GC §411.192. CONFIDENTIALITY OF RECORDS. (a) The department shall disclose to a criminal justice agency information contained in its files and records regarding whether a named individual or any individual named in a specified list is licensed under this subchapter. Information on an individual subject to disclosure under this section includes the individual's name, date of birth, gender, race, zip code, telephone number, e-mail address, and Internet website address. Except as otherwise provided by this section and by Section 411.193, all other records maintained under this subchapter are confidential and are not subject to mandatory disclosure under the open records law, Chapter 552.
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01-04-2013, 23:40
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I am so much happier in Texas!
GC §411.192. CONFIDENTIALITY OF RECORDS. (a) The department shall disclose to a criminal justice agency information contained in its files and records regarding whether a named individual or any individual named in a specified list is licensed under this subchapter. Information on an individual subject to disclosure under this section includes the individual's name, date of birth, gender, race, zip code, telephone number, e-mail address, and Internet website address. Except as otherwise provided by this section and by Section 411.193, all other records maintained under this subchapter are confidential and are not subject to mandatory disclosure under the open records law, Chapter 552.
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Actually, someone has already posted the names and addresses of every gun owner in Texas. 
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01-05-2013, 08:59
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Ex-Burglars Say Newspaper’s Gun Map Would’ve Made the Job Easier, Safer
Reformed crooks say the New York newspaper that published a map of names and addresses of gun owners did a great service – to their old cronies in the burglary trade.
The information published online by the Journal-News, a daily paper serving the New York suburbs of Westchester, Rockland and Putnam counties, could be highly useful to thieves in two ways, former burglars told FoxNews.com. Crooks looking to avoid getting shot now know which targets are soft and those who need weapons know where they can steal them.
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