02-21-2012, 17:22
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Originally Posted by Brush Okie
It doesn't have to be small or missile launch size even. I'm not going to get into specifics but just think outside the box a bit.
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Well of course. It could be truck sized, hidden in a load of XXXXXXX XXXXXX to bypass most sensors and driven into most anyplace.
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02-22-2012, 15:55
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Tactician I am not, however I got to believe that it would not be just air power that would be used in a potential strike.
Also, any strike would I believe cause the chess players to start making bold/er moves.
Objective, I believe would be to try and destabilize the current regime.
Purpose. The nukes as mentioned are almost a forgone conclusion, but interrupting production long enough might enable a more political approach to work for a different "regime".
Mission. Launch strikes (a thousand cuts), utilizing air power, long range missiles (we know Israel has done many training runs for this), human assets jumping off from Kurdish territory and also using both Kurds, and Iranian opposition.
End State would allow the international community to huff and puff their innocence, while condemning Israel. Iran's power structure might be drastically changed, or leave it in a state that would allow Saudi et al to enter the picture to "help" out or to push the current regime over the edge.
Risk. Hizbollah launching missile strikes, Syria might want to divert attention at this time (or even use diversion to start this whole ruckus). Turkey might even decide it is a good time to push the Syrian solution to conclusion.
As Hoepoe said, the Israeli public will suffer quite a bit, but if the punch is big and hard enough, in the ME that speaks volumes, it might make them (enemies) think twice before they strike.
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02-23-2012, 23:25
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Destabilization by Thousands of Cuts
Take that idea in another direction. One of Israel’s many strengths are abilities to run covert ops. How about an escalating campaign that includes, cyber warfare, assassination, and sabotage not limited to the nuclear program, no reason to exclude Iran's petroleum infrastructure... Add the threat of an Israeli strike to put the needed teeth into sanctions...which would always be an option left to them.
While the US makes a show of disapproval to a military option all the while attempting to ratchet up sanctions.
Israel has been working on a Second Strike capability (Plan C) for a while, I have no doubt they have it by now, but I also have no doubt they have had a plan A and B to precede C....
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03-21-2012, 19:43
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Originally Posted by Dozer523
We are not going to hurt an oil producer by running the price of oil UP. In our world there s always going to be a buyer. Oil is the Oxygen of economy. Besides, the Iranians have a willing, well-heeled buyer in the Chinese; and if the western economies are hurt all the better for Pei King. The damage to the US and struggling European economies caused by prohibitive oil prices would be more devastating then the OPEC oil embargo.
Want to hurt an oil producer? You have to make oil cheap.
Like the Saudi did in the 80's to punish Russia for Afghanistan.
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http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/94692...#axzz1pnyxo6JV
If the link doesn't go through, you can google: The price that launched a wall of ships.
Interesting timing for the Saudis to be turning up the spigot.
A little over a month ago, they were cutting production.
Also, sanctions were "waived" for certain countries...so they can buy oil in dollars.
http://blogs.wsj.com/corruption-curr...er-recipients/
All of this is occuring around March 20 (Iran's oil bourse...).
Doubt it's all a coincidence.
Keeping oil priced in dollars helps maintain this nation's hegemony.
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04-07-2012, 12:17
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The "attack" on Iran is continuing.
Now their tankers are having trouble getting insured.
http://www.insurancejournal.com/news.../05/242233.htm
A few more punches to the wallet.
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04-07-2012, 15:11
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No doubt sanctions are hurting them. The bunker busting bombs we sold Israel can only be delivered by a B-52 type plane. Type of plane Israel doesn't have. I got this from Time Magazine, interesting if true. Why buy the bomb without the delivery system.
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