12-06-2005, 17:36
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The rail that I have on the P-13 is a Caspian, it is the same general dimensions as almost all of the other add-on rails.
The Dawson is a proprietary low-profile set-up that requires an adapter for the X200 light.
It is small enough that some stock handgun holsters will still take the pistol with the rail mounted.
AFAIK, no one else makes or uses the Dawson rail on their factory guns, the others are mainly M1913 Picatinny or Universal rail slotted. The SureFire X200 comes with both rail adapters. The H&K used a proprietary rail on older models, their new P2000 uses a standard Picatinny rail.
You should be able to mount the Dawson rail and use the X200A or B with the Dawson adapter. I have no experience with the durability of the Dawson rail, it seems to me that smaller would get more stress, but Dawson builds good stuff.
HTH.
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12-06-2005, 18:06
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Thanks TR! I'll probably hold off for now then. I've been looking for an excuse to buy the SA MC Operator anyway. 
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12-06-2005, 19:59
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Has anyone seen just the new switch assembly for sale to retrofit an older x200A?
I've had mine for a year and a half, love the x200. Way better than an M3.
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12-06-2005, 20:29
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Has anyone seen just the new switch assembly for sale to retrofit an older x200A?
I've had mine for a year and a half, love the x200. Way better than an M3.
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The TG, the SL, or the DG switch, and for what weapon?
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12-06-2005, 21:02
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I have an x200A with the standard rocker switch.
I was looking at the new x200B and one of them had a remote switch that has the activator on a tape switch that mounts under the trigger guard.
But I haven't seen just the remote switch assembly for sale anywhere.
I'd like to get the switch, and put it on my x200A.
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12-06-2005, 21:14
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The TG, the SL, or the DG switch, and for what weapon?
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You still haven't answered the questions.
There are three switch types for a number of different weapons.
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12-06-2005, 22:22
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You still haven't answered the questions.
There are three switch types for a number of different weapons.
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Not sure. I have a X200 (not marked A or B, but it is an A), it likes to live on a Glock 21. The only marking on the body is A01606. There are no markings on the tail switch either inside or outside.
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12-06-2005, 22:29
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Not sure. I have a X200 (not marked A or B, but it is an A), it likes to live on a Glock 21. The only marking on the body is A01606. There are no markings on the tail switch either inside or outside.
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Finally!
You do have an X200A and you can retrofit the TG-11, SL-11, or DG-11 switches for the Glock by snapping off the switch cover and snapping on the appropriate tape switch.
I recommend the DG switch, and would suggest that for anyone shopping, the X200B is a much better weapons light for most situations.
Call the factory, ask for the Customer Service Department, and tell them that you are LE when you order. The switches are between $55 and $65 each.
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12-06-2005, 22:32
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Not sure. I have a X200 (not marked A or B, but it is an A), it likes to live on a Glock 21. The only marking on the body is A01606. There are no markings on the tail switch either inside or outside.
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You might want to finish that beer and call it quits for the night. 
1) The switches are available from SureFire.
2) There are three different styles.
3) There are 5-6 different configurations of each style depending on what weapon you want to put it on.
We (finally) got the Glock 21 part but you still need to answer the rest of the question.
I recommend the DG version.
FWIW - Peregrino
What TR said - he beat me out the gate.
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12-06-2005, 23:36
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OK - thanks!
Shit... I didn't know there were 3 different switch assemblies.
"Got the old one, need the new one... ooohh ooohh shiny thing for the gun!" isn't good enough?
Sorry about that, when I bought the light there were no options for switches. There was no discussion about what weapon or switch so I thought the x200 was universal. I just asked for a Surefire x200, got one, put it on the gun, good to go.
If you try to buy an x200B on the web it says "Accepts optional pressure-activated switch that extends under trigger guard." No mention of the switch or weapon type and no option to buy one.
Damn it... If anyone is looking for the same info, look here first. I snipped this from a .pdf of a newer catalog with the info:
http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/7...witches8it.jpg
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12-07-2005, 08:27
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Now here's a good look at the DG switch.....
(X200 on steroids  )
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12-07-2005, 10:41
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Now here's a good look at the DG switch.....
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Damn.....TS has all the toys!
What model? P115C, W115C/D
I've got the tactical and had a GG&G mount. It squeezed a bit much and made it difficult for the slide to rack forward hard back into battery. If I loosened it I could shoot it loose in 2 mags (low power, Winchester WB).
Interested in finding out which one, don't need it, just want it.
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12-07-2005, 11:02
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Now here's a good look at the DG switch.....
(X200 on steroids ) |
Nice - how big is the holster!?
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12-07-2005, 13:08
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Millennium M115C/M115D Handgun WeaponLight
A quantum leap in power! This three-battery, 9-volt system provides an amazingly bright 125 lumens for one hour or 225 blinding lumens for 20 minutes, making it the brightest handgun-mounted light available. Constructed from aerospace grade aluminum, Millennium Series Handgun WeaponLights feature a shock isolated bezel and lamp assembly designed to withstand repeated recoil. Key components of Millennium Series Handgun WeaponLights are compatible with Millennium WeaponLights for long guns and the Special Operations series of handheld lights, allowing for in-the-field parts swapping. All systems are MilSpec hard anodized for maximum resistance to the elements.
The M115C features both a SlimLine grip-activated momentary switch and a constant-on shuttle switch. The M115D features a SlimLine grip-activated momentary switch and a system disable shuttle switch. The "C" -- or Constant-on -- option is useful when there is a need to keep the light on for extended periods of time, or for users -- such as K9 officers -- who cannot switch to a handheld flashlight because they must keep weapon and leash in hand. The "D" -- or Disable -- option allows the light to be locked in the OFF position, decreasing the chance that the light will be accidentally activated during covert operations or during storage or transport.
No holster, I carry it in a rucksack.....
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12-07-2005, 19:59
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I got the switch name wrong, its an SL and not a DG switch!
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