03-12-2010, 23:36
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DJ--
For me, the important piece of information is that she was in a large department store.
If she had gone into a 'mom and pop,' a 'boutique,' or a shop like yours and complained about the play list, I think she'd be worthy of a withering eye roll or two.
FWIW, the only time I've gotten bent out of shape over the music in a store is when I realized the local chain of grocery stores has a tune by one of my favorite bands on its Muzak play list. Mental gymnastics worthy of the Olympics followed.
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03-13-2010, 00:39
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Originally Posted by Sigaba
For me, the important piece of information is that she was in a large department store.
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I don't know about that, Sig. In a reverse situation, regarding a marketing ad not music, do you remember this thread from last Thanksgiving?
http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...y+thanksgiving
Best Buy ran an ad during our Thanksgiving week that in many markets made no mention of "Happy Thanksgiving" but instead only had "Happy Eid al-Adha," an important Muslim religious holiday. Best Buy is obviously a large chain. So was that irresponsible of them to do that?
Many of us thought so.... but Best Buy apparently replied to their email complaints with this:
"Best Buy’s customers and employees around the world represent a variety of faiths and denominations. We respect that diversity and choose to greet our customers and employees in ways that reflect their traditions. We do use the word 'holiday' in some of our advertising because it is meant to be inclusive to everyone. However, just as we have in the past, we will also reference specific holidays such as Christmas, Hanukkah and Kwanzaa in our weekly ads, store signage and other advertising vehicles."
I think there are many large chains that do whatever the hell they want to. And as TR and others said in the above thread, we can help the Best Buys of the world celebrate bankruptcy by not shopping there anymore. Or in this case, in the store with the Christian music, we can shop there MORE. Too bad she doesn't tell us which store it is.
By the way, she posted her 'grievance' on her blog March 9. Since then some pretty funny comments have been left for her. But I have a twisted sense of humor.
Sig, YMMV?
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03-13-2010, 01:19
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About the music, most stores use music as a marketing tool. You like the music, the longer you stay. The longer you stay the more you are apt to spend money.
Don't like the ambiance and the music, you walk away and take your money with you.
It behooves, however, to know your customer base and attempt to cater to them. They are, in fact, your livelihood. Without customers there is no business.
Not to say one will always get that one snarky customer, one in every pack. 
YMMV
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03-13-2010, 01:57
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Originally Posted by DJ Urbanovsky
Methinks that Ruth Nasrullah needs a nice tall glass of shut the fuck up.
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Many Californians agree.
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03-13-2010, 08:06
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Originally Posted by DJ Urbanovsky
Methinks that Ruth Nasrullah needs a nice tall glass of shut the fuck up.
I'd probably feel alien too if I lived in the Middle East, so guess what? I don't fucking live there. And I don't want to.
I think it's generally socially responsible to respect the general mores of the country in which you reside. Despite our shortcomings, America is a great place to live. You don't like our culture? Then you don't have to live here.
I get so tired of the "my god can do more one handed pull-ups than your god." I'd think that by now, people would notice the similarities between all religions and perhaps recognize that maybe the reason for division rests in the fact that we humans have a tendency to fuck things up in the interpretation. "God" never shows up and speaks to everybody, he always seems to just speak to a couple of guys. And who's to say that God even really spoke to those guys? Because they said "God told me so, to my face?" Maybe some of those guys are fucking liars, and maybe they have their own personal, selfish agenda? Know what I'm sayin'?
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Like the guys are saying "terrific idea",only problem is that whoever does write it is signing his death warrant !!!!!......  Do you honestly think THEY won't put him on their list ?
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Brother,
Every last one of them "radical" MFers can bring-it-on!
Just be lucky I don't have a HBO special...some of stuff I'd say, would NOT make it on regular TV.
Stay safe.
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04-05-2010, 09:20
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From: ruth nasrullah
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:12 AM
To: deaddrop@professionalsoldiers.com
Subject: my blog
Hello - my name is Ruth Nasrullah. I was informed by my Google alert that your site has been discussing my blog post on the Houston Chronicle, "Jesus at the Mall." I was wondering if you could give me temporary privileges so I can post a response to some of the comments. Thanks for your help.
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04-05-2010, 10:05
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Hmm. Gutsy.
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04-05-2010, 10:13
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Hmm. Gutsy.
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Yeah, so is jumping into the middle of the street with RPG in hand preparing to fire on an armored column of commonly known as "Rolling Thunder".
We all know what happened to "that guy".
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04-05-2010, 10:25
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Offended?
Depends on what her views of being offended are.
Do some have special rights when it comes to being offended?
Does her "offended" have higher status than my "offended"?
Is having to listen to religious music in a public - non-government - place "offensive"?
Were some of the posts on this thread "offensive" to her. Is having to read her posts "offensive" to some?
Frankly, I find the whole idea of people walking around looking to be offended "offensive".
Well, now, the people over by the Church do get offended come Sunday morning when they crank up thier religious PA system for all the subdivision to hear. And they do complain. Wonder if she would be "offended" if a Mosque did the same thing and people complained? Would she say they were culturally insensitive?
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04-05-2010, 10:38
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Speaking of offended...guess it's all in the verbiage and knowing how to play the system...
I just applied for a building permit for a new house. It was going to be 100 ft tall and 400 ft wide with 9 turrets at various heights and windows all over the place and a loud outside entertainment sound system. It would have parking for 200 cars and I was going to paint it snot green with poofter pink trim.
The City council told me to f#$% off.
So I sent in the application again, but this time I called it a Mosque.
Work starts on Monday...**
But that's MOO...and so it goes...
Richard's jaded $.02
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04-05-2010, 10:54
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Originally Posted by Richard
I just applied for a building permit for a new house. It was going to be 100 ft tall and 400 ft wide with 9 turrets at various heights and windows all over the place and a loud outside entertainment sound system. It would have parking for 200 cars and I was going to paint it snot green with poofter pink trim.
The City council told me to f#$% off.
So I sent in the application again, but this time I called it a Mosque.
Work starts on Monday...**
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I'm hoping maybe those goat tacos are served in the parking lot and the minarets are blasting Mel Torme or Bad Company?
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04-05-2010, 12:51
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Originally Posted by Richard
I just applied for a building permit for a new house. It was going to be 100 ft tall and 400 ft wide with 9 turrets at various heights and windows all over the place and a loud outside entertainment sound system. It would have parking for 200 cars and I was going to paint it snot green with poofter pink trim.
The City council told me to f#$% off.
So I sent in the application again, but this time I called it a Mosque.
Work starts on Monday... 
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I tried the same thing but called it a Synagogue and they still told me to F*&# Off. Who would have guessed...
Since then I have decided I would rather not build.
Crip
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04-05-2010, 20:20
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You guys have stores that play music?
wow.
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04-05-2010, 22:37
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MOO, Ms. Nasrullah is not the problem in the situation she described but rather the members of the staff at a "large department" store (that may be owned by a corporation) who decided to impose their vision of the shopping experience on customers.
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Sigaba, I see your point. I'd presume that you meant to say "Ms. Nasrullah is not the ONLY problem in the situation she described." The colourful discussion over the offended shopper is not without merit. S.O.S. Tolerance for the intolerant.
I'll be on a lookout for that book, Reaper Sir.
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04-06-2010, 07:21
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Google Searches?
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Originally Posted by email to TS
Hello - my name is Ruth Nasrullah. I was informed by my Google alert that your site has been discussing my blog post on the Houston Chronicle, "Jesus at the Mall." I was wondering if you could give me temporary privileges so I can post a response to some of the comments. Thanks for your help.
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So how many times a day does Ms. Nasrullah receive Google alerts about herself? IS she that vain or does she actually go looking for a fight? I would say a combination of both.
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Reason: Fixed your quote Brother
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