Body Believed to Be Missing California Teen Found

[TheSiatonist]

Originally Posted by Gypsy

Maybe they should be held accountable as accessories to assault/murder.

I dunno about you fellas but I think that's a swell idea.

[Pete]

Originally Posted by NORMAL550GIRL

.... Every man or woman who felt like they got a raw deal in a lawsuit or custody battle would sue the judge and/or prosecutor. .......

I'm willing to bet the parents of the dead girl feel like their family got a raw deal !

[Green Light]

Originally Posted by NORMAL550GIRL

Judges and prosecutors have immunity from lawsuits for the decisions they make in their jobs.

It sounds good on paper, but you have to realize that being able to "hold them accountable" would impossibly tie up the judicial system that's already overloaded. Every man or woman who felt like they got a raw deal in a lawsuit or custody battle would sue the judge and/or prosecutor. (Not that I'm saying they didn't completely screw up on this one.)

That's true. But, there is professional review of professional standards, not to mention many states either elect or confirm their judges by voting. Judges who let heinous criminals off with a comparative slap on the wrist need to be removed at the earliest chance offered by that state's constitution. We can no longer stand for this. The loss of life, even one, is too much.

[Gypsy]

Originally Posted by NORMAL550GIRL

Judges and prosecutors have immunity from lawsuits for the decisions they make in their jobs.

Yeah, well maybe that needs to change especially when it comes to judges giving out ridiculously light sentences.

[ChickenMcFuggit]

The sorry fact is the system as such does not allow itself to be fixed quickly if at all in some cases. Until that changes, we must raise our children with a healthy dose of caution and stay aware of our surroundings. The Beast is out there and its always hungry. Google Anna Svidersky. Her killer had a history of kidnapping and sexual assault but still was able to win with his insanity defense. The below site is a useful tool for parents.

http://www.familywatchdog.us/Default.asp

Look up Enrique Almendarez in SC. Used to put him in jail every time I saw him on the street (kinda hard to register an address when you're homeless, makes for an easy warrant , and then there's always the Public Disorderly catchall) til he decided to move out of my county. And yes, I notified them over there to keep a look out for the POS. All told he's done about three and a half years for my arrests, which according to him is almost half of what he did for the original charges.
Point is, his offenses occured in two other states before he moved down here and became my target. Wouldn't have known he existed until he showed up at a playground and asked a dope dealer's 6 year old neice for a lap dance. Still can't figure out why he isn't dead.
These people are everywhere, free to roam until they spit on the sidewalk, a cop runs them, and finds out the Beast snuck into your town, and even then he may be powerless to do more than document the situation.
You have to remain vigilant. Like Tom Sizemore said,"Its not whether you're paranoid, its whether you're paranoid enough." But I ramble. I'll trust our hosts to delete this if I'm out of line. Just a little touchy about the subject, knowwhatImean ?

[echoes]

Originally Posted by Gypsy

Yeah, well maybe that needs to change especially when it comes to judges giving out ridiculously light sentences.

Agree, 100%...Gypsy.

Only wish this little girl had a protector, to fight off this evil bastard, until he was nothing more than a pile of bones!!!

Rest In Peace little girl.

Holly

[doctom54]

I really like how in "Inglorious Bastards" (I know not a great movie but entertaining) he "marked" the Nazi's with a swastika carved in their foreheads.
Maybe something along those lines. A BIG tattoo across their face "CM" for child molester. Then everyone can keep track of them.

[98G]

Originally Posted by Richard

This is a sad thread.

Richard's $.02

I think Richard summed it up.

Not every victim is willing or able to testify. Until a girl is killed, the punishment just doesn't cut it. I am not a fan of the death penalty (just puts us in odd company in the world for a small number of people who can also rot in jail) but a 9mm to the base of the skull solution works for me. Rapists repeat and at least from personal experience, escalate. This one has no happy ending that I can see.

[echoes]

Originally Posted by 98G

but a 9mm to the base of the skull solution works for me. Rapists repeat and at least from personal experience, escalate.

Point Blank, agree sir. Oxagen thives need to be ousted off of this planet!

Holly

[PSM]

The POS was also a susspect in the following case:

Sheriff: Remains of missing California teen Amber DuBois found
March 8, 2010 -- Updated 0017 GMT (0817 HKT)

Amber DuBois was reported missing in February 2009.


(CNN) -- The remains of Amber DuBois, a 14-year-old San Diego, California-area girl who was missing for more than a year, have been found, police announced Sunday.

San Diego County Sheriff Michael Gore said that human skeletal remains found in the area of Pala -- a rural area in East County, California -- have been positively identified as those of DuBois.

Dubois last seen walking alone to school on February 13, 2009.

CNN Link

He's probably talking to keep the needle out of his arm.

Pat

[6.8SPC_DUMP]

QP alright4u makes a good point about castration for male pedophiles IMHO.

Surgical castration upon conviction and chemical castration follow-ups to monitor hormone levels if/when the pedo's released makes me feel safer for the children, rather than therapeutic treatment, aiming to curb their hard wired predatory instincts.

Even if Gardner served the full 11 years wouldn't he still be a threat upon release?

Mandating the death penalty for molestation may backfire because it often precludes the offenders from having charges pressed against them when they are family members, "friends" of the family, "esteemed" members of the community, ect.

The offender should be made to pay the cost of their medical treatment and repeat offenders not given another chance. RIP Chelsea King and Amber DuBois.

[Richard]

The tone of this thread reminds me of The Ox Bow Incident - good film.

Richard's $.02

[Utah Bob]

Originally Posted by Richard

The tone of this thread reminds me of The Ox Bow Incident - good film.

Richard's $.02

[PSM]

That was quick.

John Gardner confesses to killing Chelsea King and Amber Dubois
April 16, 7:05 PMCrime ExaminerCindy Adams

John Gardner confesses to killing Chelsea King and Amber Dubois

Friday, John Gardner pleaded guilty to murdering teenagers Chelsea King and Amber Dubois.

According to the La Jolla Light, Gardner entered into a plea deal, which spares him from the death penalty. However, he is expected to be sentence to two consecutive life terms with the possibility of parole.

Chelsea, 17, disappeared Feb. 25 after heading out for a jog near Lake Hodges. Her body was found just days later in a shallow grave near the lake. Gardner’s DNA was found on Chelsea’s underwear.

Amber, 14, vanished in Feb. 2009 while walking to school. Her skeletal remains were found in early March—just miles from where Chelsea was discovered.

Gardner also faces 33 years to life in prison for attacking a woman in December.

His guilty plea regarding Chelsea and Amber bars him from appealing his conviction and sentence in the case, according to the La Jolla Light.

Gardner has a history of violence with underage girls and in 2000 was sentenced to six years behind bars after pleading guilty to assaulting a 13-year-old girl. He ultimately served just five years.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime...d-Amber-Dubois

Pat