Fine, I'll bring the stirring stick

[Valhal]

Originally posted by DoctorDoom
That's a common misconception of those ethnic groups in America, and ultimately strays from the purpose of AA. Another flaw in your commentary is that PC postdates AA by several decades, so I don't see PC as an outgrowth of AA. In any case Asians are defined as not qualifying for AA since they are an "overrepresented minority," leading to the curious situation of qualified Asian applicants being rejected because there are "too many of them." You don't see many opponents of AA making a stink about that though..

Dr. D,

Upon reflection I believe I may have understated my intent with my last post. My first failure is that I am not even sure if there is a lack of a Chinese and Korean presence in SF. I inferred it by a previous question by RL and not by a stated fact. My apologies.

I believe it would have been better to say that different ethnic groups have intrinsic cultural directions. I was born and raised on the left coast of California, in the Bay Area, I have many Asian friends and they all came from strict hard working families with an incredible work ethic. That is too much of a blanket statement, lets go one step further. Most immigrants are hard working, regardless of race or religion. Why is that?

I am a first generation immigrant. My father came to this country from Norway when he was 16. German soldiers kicked his family out of their house during WWII. He worked hard here and made a good life for his family, he beat that work ethic into my head. Never be satisfied, always strive for that next level.

As I said previously AA is a band-aid for an injury, we should go and prevent what caused that injury in the first place.

OH, and I never said that PC postdated AA.

Regards,
Mark

Originally posted by Valhal
Most immigrants are hard working, regardless of race or religion. Why is that?

Because many, possibly most, immigrants come from an environment where hard work is necessary to survival, and the ooportunity to have their hard work pay increasing dividends is a new experience, one they appreciate.


Many multi-generation Americans take America for granted. They're lazy and don't think their way of life will ever be challenged. Complacent.

[DoctorDoom]

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[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
LOL - don't tell me you're getting all sensitive? I was bored, I had to pick a fight with somebody. Come on! Give me a smiley face!

LOL

No, you've got it all wrong. Nice as in "well done," not as in the opposite of mean.

BTW, admin suggestion: one smiley per post is oppressive. (I'd add another smiley here if I could! LOL)

[Roguish Lawyer]

D9:

Have you considered other screen names? I have some suggestions.

The Anti-Bulldozer
Cat Killer
The Deere Hunter
KomatsuNo

Just trying to help . . .

[longrange1947]

RL -

BTW, admin suggestion: one smiley per post is oppressive. (I'd add another smiley here if I could! LOL)

Here here, as they say in the stuffy Parliment game!

[AngelsSix]

Wow, this thread really took off!! I got here a bit late, please bear with me!!

Okay, my 2 sense(pun intended).......

First of all, do the job you are qualified for based on how HARD you worked to get to that qualification. IOW.....study hard and make good grades in high school, etc. Parents can't afford college?? Not your fault.....I think some help would be a good idea here. But I also believe that you should PROVE you deserve that help, i.e.: not going to college on a basketball, football or other sports scholorship. Education must be your first priority, not sports. I hate sports scholorships!!
Okay, so now you work your ass off, get a college diploma.....go to work. Do you deserve a job as a VP or even as a Supervisor?? No, because you have no experience. You have to start somewhere.
Doesn't matter if you are black, white, Spanish, female or immigrant. I think everyone should have to maintain the same standards. It might make people get off their sorry asses and actually do something besides feel sorry for themselves. My personal feelings are that if you aren't qualified, the job isn't for you. I think AI is truly a crutch people use. I agree that some people have less oppotunities than others. But we go out of our way in this country to avoid offending the minorities, and it is really annoying.
Sorry if this doesn't make a whole lot of sense....it's early, LOL!!

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
My wife and her family used to put their hands out to keep me from crossing the street because they thought I didn't know how to do it, down here.

Maybe they saw your skillful negotiation of the manhole?