05-07-2013, 19:25
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The only way that a majority of the population can arrive at the opinion that gun crimes have risen in the last two decades is through the duplicity of the MSM, who have abdicated all vestiges of their journalistic responsibilities as members of the "4th Estate" at the altar of partisan politics...
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Pretty fair indictment, which is what it is.
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05-07-2013, 19:28
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So, Dr. John Lott would appear to be correct.
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05-08-2013, 15:06
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Total NICS Background Checks November 30, 1998 - April 30, 2013
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nic...als-033113.pdf
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05-08-2013, 16:56
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Does it go "boom" and you made it?
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In the future, the Lautenberg "permit to reload" bill here.
Read carefully, and note again the way the AG inserts itself into the permission process, and the criteria.
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05-08-2013, 17:12
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"The Attorney General shall issue guidelines describing the circumstances under which the Attorney General will exercise the authority and make determinations..."
Chuckie Schumer is now a co-sponsor.
I feel safer already.
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05-08-2013, 20:06
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I worry that my son might not understand what I've tried to be. And if I were to be killed, Willard, I would want someone to go to my home and tell my son everything – everything I did, everything you saw – because there's nothing that I detest more than the stench of lies. And if you understand me, Willard, you will do this for me.  and they thought Kurtz was nuts, Ha.
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05-08-2013, 20:20
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I worry that my son might not understand what I've tried to be. And if I were to be killed, Willard, I would want someone to go to my home and tell my son everything – everything I did, everything you saw – because there's nothing that I detest more than the stench of lies. And if you understand me, Willard, you will do this for me.  and they thought Kurtz was nuts, Ha.
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Wrong thread?
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05-09-2013, 06:25
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A powerful message for more than 10 rounds
A friend forwarded this YouTube PSA to me this morning.
I think that the producer meant to say standard capacity magazines rather than high capacity magazines - at least he did not call them "clips" - if the libs own the lanaguage they often own the argument.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=7F1nP...%3D7F1nPSNnaBo
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05-09-2013, 09:21
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A friend forwarded this YouTube PSA to me this morning.
I think that the producer meant to say standard capacity magazines rather than high capacity magazines - at least he did not call them "clips" - if the libs own the lanaguage they often own the argument.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=7F1nP...%3D7F1nPSNnaBo
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You say own the language and yet you pigeon-hole your magazine argument. Standard capacity implies a standard amount [if the libs get their way the "standard" will be low, say 7 0r 10 rounds]. who sets the "standard"?
I want HIGH capacity magazines! The higher the better! No one in combat ever says they carried too much ammo! Not only do I want high capacity magazines, I want a lot of them!
Own the language of Hi-Cap mags! Libs can try to label them "assault mags" or "death clips" for all I care but we should take back the language!
High Capacity Magazines Save Lives!!!!
Now back to your regularly scheduled argument!
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05-09-2013, 09:30
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Originally Posted by miclo18d
You say own the language and yet you pigeon-hole your magazine argument. Standard capacity implies a standard amount [if the libs get their way the "standard" will be low, say 7 0r 10 rounds]. who sets the "standard"?
I want HIGH capacity magazines! The higher the better! No one in combat ever says they carried too much ammo! Not only do I want high capacity magazines, I want a lot of them!
Own the language of Hi-Cap mags! Libs can try to label them "assault mags" or "death clips" for all I care but we should take back the language!
High Capacity Magazines Save Lives!!!!
Now back to your regularly scheduled argument!
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High capacity, standard capacity...as long as the magazines hold more than 10 rounds and free, law abiding citizens can own, use and transfer them - I'm in.
ETA: IMO, standard capacity for a Glock 19 magazine is commonly 15 rounds - high capacity is 33 rounds and restricted magazine capacity is 10 rounds.
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05-09-2013, 14:31
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Originally Posted by tonyz
High capacity, standard capacity...as long as the magazines hold more than 10 rounds and free, law abiding citizens can own, use and transfer them - I'm in.
ETA: IMO, standard capacity for a Glock 19 magazine is commonly 15 rounds - high capacity is 33 rounds and restricted magazine capacity is 10 rounds.
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I think you're onto something! The current administration is trying to make us use a RESTRICTED MAGAZINE! Make them look like the Nazis they are by restricting our rights!
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05-09-2013, 17:41
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- high capacity is 33 rounds -
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Don't EVEN be thinkin' about reachin' for my standard-size G18 Pez dispensers.
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05-09-2013, 18:20
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Don't EVEN be thinkin' about reachin' for my standard-size G18 Pez dispensers. 
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Lol..."hurricane sticks" - they do provide a nice - easy to carry - ready to go package of 9mm goodness.
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05-09-2013, 21:48
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A SPECIAL KIND OF STUPID
TO THOSE WHO THINK GUN CONTROL STOPS CRIME:
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05-10-2013, 06:30
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"I really think I'm going to be getting a gun to protect myself."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...ock:Position14
A pack of up to four pit bull terriers has been blamed for the death of a jogger in rural Los Angeles, with officials warning on Thursday that the dogs remained on the loose.
Sheriff's Lieutenant John Corina said a woman in a car saw the dogs attacking the female jogger, 63, on Thursday morning. The witness called police and blew her car horn to try to get the dogs to stop.
"When the first deputy on scene saw one dog still attacking the woman, he tried to chase the dog away," Corina said. "The dog ran off into the desert, then turned around and attacked the deputy, the deputy fired a round at the dog and tried to kill the dog, and the dog took off into the desert."
The woman died while she was in an ambulance on the way to a hospital, said Evelina Villa, county animal control spokeswoman.
The coroner's office was investigating to determine the cause of death.
Sheriff's officials were alerting people in the area to watch for four tan-coloured dogs and were were using a helicopter to search for them. It was unclear whether the dogs had collars or owners.
"In these areas you might have a situation where people dump animals out in rural areas," said John Mlynar, a spokesman for the nearby city of Palmdale. He haad never heard of an attack like Thursday's, Mlynar said.
Residents near the site of the attack said stray dogs were constantly roaming the area and had attacked people before.
"It's really scary," Diane Huffman, of Littlerock, told KABC-TV. "I don't know what to think. I really think I'm going to be getting a gun to protect myself."
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