07-24-2006, 13:04
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I'm gonna have to check this one out.
I picked up The Three Meter Zone: Commonsense Leadership for NCOs by CSM JD Pendry and Small Unit Leadership: A Commonsense Approach by Col Dandridge Malone. I picked them up on the off chance that I am allowed the opportunity to lead soldiers one day. Has anyone else read these? Just started studying The Three Meter Zone. It's pretty good so far.
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03-12-2007, 04:23
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Had a local Doctor in Fayettebragg send it to us (The TM). Great reading, loved the lay out within the chapters, like its been posted here. A book in which leaders within our field (MIL & LEO, Fire, EMS, ETC) should be issued at school during leadership developement meetings or training.
Like the break down for Sqd/Tm level to the Org level for everything from Training, AARs, to leadership in the different roles Howe covers.
Sluggos.. If U don't have it, after RFF tell Ur loves ones this is what U want as a persent from Ur Anut, Uncle, Sister, Brother.. U get the point.
It takes 2000-3000 times to get something right.
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03-27-2007, 15:53
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Awesome Book !
I just finished reading it a couple of days ago this book has changed the way I look at leadership and how it should be. I couldn't put it down once I started reading it, now I think I'll pass it on to my fellow SPC(P). Looking forward to more work by him !
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04-16-2007, 21:29
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Good book and very succinct. Personally I found it a rewarding read as I begin my career, it showed me some things to look at/focus on/remember as I get started and reinforced some beliefs/attitudes I had already established myself.
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10-18-2008, 20:33
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Big fan of the Combat Mindset portion of this book. I previously listened to similar works by Col. Grossman and found MSG Howe's perspective to be more aggressive and abrasive (which I like).
Excellent read. I'll be passing this one along to other members of my team.
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10-18-2008, 20:36
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I didn't find anything similar about Grossman's books.
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10-18-2008, 20:48
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Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc
I didn't find anything similar about Grossman's books.
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I agree.
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10-18-2008, 20:50
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Col. Grossman has an audio recording I have heard called "The Bulletproof Mind." He speaks about preparing your mind for combat. As for his experience for which he bases his concepts....I am unsure.
Based on the respect MSG Howe has been given on this forum....I am going to assume he is an expert in what he preaches.
I'd love to attend one of his courses down in TX.
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10-18-2008, 22:57
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Howe and Grossman
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Originally Posted by MeC86
Col. Grossman has an audio recording I have heard called "The Bulletproof Mind." He speaks about preparing your mind for combat. As for his experience for which he bases his concepts....I am unsure.
Based on the respect MSG Howe has been given on this forum....I am going to assume he is an expert in what he preaches.
I'd love to attend one of his courses down in TX.
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I believe you are comparing Apples to Oranges. Although they are both fruit one is VERY different than the other.
They both cover a topic but one studied it while the other lives, breaths, and eats it all day ever day.
That is just my understanding of the differences and .02 cents.
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10-20-2008, 06:48
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Great book. Wish it was a mandatory read for those in the service and government.
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12-25-2009, 16:49
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Originally Posted by MtnGoat
...tell Ur loves ones this is what U want as a persent from Ur Anut, Uncle, Sister, Brother.. U get the point.
It takes 2000-3000 times to get something right.
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I dropped many a hint over the past few weeks and viola! My oldest gave it to me this morning!
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01-03-2010, 11:00
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I dropped many a hint over the past few weeks and viola! My oldest gave it to me this morning!
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Great News!!! Great reading too.
See as the good book says.. You ask and you shall receive.
Enjoy and post a review
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History teaches that when you become indifferent and lose the will to fight someone who has the will to fight will take over."
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Intelligence failures are failures of command [just] as operations failures are command failures.”
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