Gunman opens fire on Republicans in Virginia

[DDD]

So I just saw a headline that proclaimed "Politically motivated attack was bound to happen". Really??? Can someone name all the "politically motivated attacks" during President Obama's 8 years in office?

[Ret10Echo]

Originally Posted by DDD

So I just saw a headline that proclaimed "Politically motivated attack was bound to happen". Really??? Can someone name all the "politically motivated attacks" during President Obama's 8 years in office?

Proclaimed by the press that has been whipping everyone into a frenzy for the better part of a year? The press that has gone to huge lengths to undermine confidence in the American political system? This same press that promotes hate and violence through their reporting and fawning over the Hollywood "elite" that live off of the country's absolute infatuation with gun violence on the big screen and in video games? The press that encourages the weak-minded that there is no hope... all is doom and gloom... the end is near?

That press?


Nah... Couldn't be them. That would be silly.

[Dean Jarvis]

This shooter was no Chris Kyle. Witnesses claim anywhere from 30 to 100 rounds were fired. Lucky for the Congressmen that this guy didn't spend a little more time on the range.

[frostfire]

Originally Posted by Ret10Echo

Proclaimed by the press that has been whipping everyone into a frenzy for the better part of a year? The press that has gone to huge lengths to undermine confidence in the American political system? This same press that promotes hate and violence

several countries are working on their terrorism-related legislation. The gist of it is the need to criminalize the radicalization process, not just reactively waiting until the terrorist act occurs.

I submit the MSM is guilty of radicalizing people with low restraint like this Bernie-loving loser of a shooter.
I fear the opposite is just true. There are conservative, Trump-supporting folks with low restraints as well.

So at which point free speech falls under hate mongering? or are we waiting for the next resistance lead campaign?

We sorely need a unifying figure at this point. Dr. Ben Carson can be one....but he'd probably get called Uncle Tom

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by frostfire

We sorely need a unifying figure at this point. Dr. Ben Carson can be one....but he'd probably get called Uncle Tom

TPTB won't let a unifying figure happen, the entire Russia/Trump meme is a perfect example. I feel much of the problem lies in the fact that the US Government is the largest employer in the United States and in all likelihood is also the largest conduit of business throughout the US.

Too many people and companies are attached to Uncle Sugars tit, and Uncle Sugar will continue to rob the private sector until it is no more.

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by DDD

So I just saw a headline that proclaimed "Politically motivated attack was bound to happen". Really??? Can someone name all the "politically motivated attacks" during President Obama's 8 years in office?

Silly man, that would be racist, not political, any attack on barry soetoro is racist. At least that's what CNN and MSNBC believes.

[bblhead672]

Originally Posted by Dean Jarvis

This shooter was no Chris Kyle. Witnesses claim anywhere from 30 to 100 rounds were fired. Lucky for the Congressmen that this guy didn't spend a little more time on the range.

Yeah, fortunate that he lived in a unfriendly 2A state so probably didn't put in the range time that people in Texas and other states do.
Of course if it had been a trained shooter there might be 15-20 dead and they would still be looking for the shooter.

Last rumor I heard is that he was using an SKS. Anyone heard confirmation of what he was actually using?

[Ret10Echo]

Originally Posted by frostfire

I fear the opposite is just true. There are conservative, Trump-supporting folks with low restraints as well.

So at which point free speech falls under hate mongering? or are we waiting for the next resistance lead campaign?

We sorely need a unifying figure at this point. Dr. Ben Carson can be one....but he'd probably get called Uncle Tom

I've long ago become party agnostic. It's "Them"...... the Politico's. What parenthetical letter appears after their name is no longer relevant.

What is the threshold where one pole-vaults over those areas covered by the First Amendment?

Perhaps the ability to "Petition for the redress of grievances" appears to have been taken away or that the expectation is that everything demanded will be given?

We are a society of 2-year-olds.

[Golf1echo]

Originally Posted by frostfire

several countries are working on their terrorism-related legislation. The gist of it is the need to criminalize the radicalization process, not just reactively waiting until the terrorist act occurs.

I submit the MSM is guilty of radicalizing people with low restraint like this Bernie-loving loser of a shooter.
I fear the opposite is just true. There are conservative, Trump-supporting folks with low restraints as well.

So at which point free speech falls under hate mongering? or are we waiting for the next resistance lead campaign?

We sorely need a unifying figure at this point. Dr. Ben Carson can be one....but he'd probably get called Uncle Tom

We haven't heard much about theses people or entities although we have to hear from them as they regurgitate their views to us...time we start to focus on them and their agenda.
NBC: Stephen B Burke CEO NBCUniversal Harvard grad on the boards of:Berkshire Hathaway, JP Morgan Chase
CBS: Leslie Moonves. Sumner Redstone, owner of National Amusements, Simon & Schuster, Harvard grad
ABC: Disney Media Corp.: Ben Sherwood, James Goldston Columbia and Harvard Law School
Huffington ......
Washington Post: Jeff Bezos, Princton University
Time Warner : Jeff Buwkes, Yale
etc...etc...etc....
Imagine that, true elitists from all the wonder schools...

[ddoering]

Originally Posted by frostfire

several countries are working on their terrorism-related legislation. The gist of it is the need to criminalize the radicalization process, not just reactively waiting until the terrorist act occurs.

I submit the MSM is guilty of radicalizing people with low restraint like this Bernie-loving loser of a shooter.
I fear the opposite is just true. There are conservative, Trump-supporting folks with low restraints as well.

So at which point free speech falls under hate mongering? or are we waiting for the next resistance lead campaign?

We sorely need a unifying figure at this point. Dr. Ben Carson can be one....but he'd probably get called Uncle Tom

I'm afraid there are segments of the population that are beyond unifying. Its just a matter of time before the other shoe drops and a right wing adherent exacts revenge. If it triggers a governmental response to reign in Constitutional protections in the name of safety that is how shit spins out of control.

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by ddoering

I'm afraid there are segments of the population that are beyond unifying. Its just a matter of time before the other shoe drops and a right wing adherent exacts revenge. If it triggers a governmental response to reign in Constitutional protections in the name of safety that is how shit spins out of control.

+1 I think there are insufficient numbers who understand the level of butt-hurt over what was invested to get the assumed result of Queen Hillary. Blood (some bodies not yet recovered) and galactic levels of treasure are down the toilet; and those sources are the same places that supply the sensationalistic & perjorative trigger word du jour to the MSM and their minions.

As Chris Christie said the other day in the den of vipers at MSNBC when they brought up blatant accusations of treason & obstruction of justice:
"Whoa, hold it right there. As a former prosecutor I know what those things are in the law; so FIRST if you're going to use Big & Important words, you need to understand what they really mean and how to use them, and you don't."
The little automaton sat there goggle-eyed like someone had stolen her latte'. Multiply her times alot & add a bunch of zeroes.

They are not interested in unification; and I give Congress 16 days* before the next venomous rhetorical strike. And I'm probably being too generous(1). But I'll bethcha the illiterate hipsters (BLM, Antifa, et al) have already been directed to tamp it down for a few days. Suspension, not cessation.

* yeah, it's a complete guess
(1) Disclaimer: I don't count things like senile ramblings of people like McCain or Pelosi.

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Badger52

They are not interested in unification; and I give Congress 16 days* before the next venomous rhetorical strike. And I'm probably being too generous(1). But I'll bethcha the illiterate hipsters (BLM, Antifa, et al) have already been directed to tamp it down for a few days. Suspension, not cessation.

The symbolic day of July 4th could be interesting this year.

[Dean Jarvis]

Originally Posted by ddoering

I'm afraid there are segments of the population that are beyond unifying. Its just a matter of time before the other shoe drops and a right wing adherent exacts revenge. If it triggers a governmental response to reign in Constitutional protections in the name of safety that is how shit spins out of control.

I don't think I would be going too far out on a limb by suggesting that history will show that these were the first shots fired in the next revolution.

As for the Obstruction of Justice claims. The MSM points to the Lester Holt interview with POTUS where he said he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation. Comey told Trump on three occasions that he was not under investigation. Trump asked him multiple times to make a public statement to that effect due to a cloud hanging over Trump led by the MSM to insinuate that trump was involved in collusion. Comey refused to do this. It's a simple case of insubordination and he has every right to fire the jerk.

[Penn]

The difference between a left leaning political shooter and right leaning political shooter is target ROI. The LLPS will attack politico's, resulting in a one or two day talk fest, while a RLPS will seek immediate long term results, by targeting media headliners and the humanities and social policy departments at major universities, these and other worthy soft targets would produce a collective reevaluation of their position.

[Razor]

Originally Posted by frostfire

several countries are working on their terrorism-related legislation. The gist of it is the need to criminalize the radicalization process, not just reactively waiting until the terrorist act occurs.

While prevention is almost always preferrable to mitigation/restoration, I'm very leery of blurring the line between thinking about doing something and actually doing it.