Hillary stumbled off the curb, her "knees buckled"

[Patrin]

"Zeiss Z1 lenses for epilepsy/photophobia"...that's a blip of info. I read over on another forum regarding the sunglasses Hitlary is wearing in the previous picture I posted.

Interesting.

Particularly, when you factor in the story line that she is suffering from pneumonia.

How many people have any of us known with pneumonia, that one, collapses uncontrollably, then bounces back...after a visit to her daughter's apartment (with full medical stock I'm sure)...waves at the camera and then hugs a little girl.

All while having pneumonia.

I'm no doctor, but this is a crock of sh*t.

Rather, one would be getting oxygen therapy, perhaps IV meds, inhalers, etc.

The method of, coolly, escorting her back to transport, says to me her handlers and MD knew what to do.

Conversely, you can walk around hours after you experience neurological issues that get treated, you can get close to kids and others, you don't need full walking support after you are treated.

Now she's cancelled major fundraising trips to CA, and Trump has announced he will release the result of a full physical to the press, "with very, very detailed numbers" this week.

I recall a quote from Churchill after the bombing of Pearl Harbor, and he knew, now, that America would enter the war and help would come:

“Being saturated and satiated with emotion and sensation, I went to bed and slept the sleep of the saved and thankful.”

We have all been very worried about the fate of the country that we love, and our own personal freedoms. It may not seem like it now, but I believe her fate is sealed, and that, perhaps, needed change will now come.

Believe me, I am about as cynical as one can get, but I'm seeing a further solidified path to victory in November.

[Oldrotorhead]

Tinfoil? Quite possibly
Parkinson's The sources are suspect and I'm not a Doctor

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?sh...05?projector=1

[bblhead672]

What kind of medical treatment, spells or witchcraft was used inside Chelsea's apartment to bring about such a turnaround?

I fully expect to wake up one morning soon to the news that the woman has died from her undisclosed illness.

[PSM]

Originally Posted by bblhead672

I fully expect to wake up one morning soon to the news that the woman has died from her undisclosed illness...

...Only to rise again on the third day and emerge from Chelsea's apartment triumphant.

Pat

[Patriot007]

Originally Posted by Sdiver

Doc,
What do you think, could this also be early onset of Parkinson's ???

I've seen that hypothesis being tossed about.
.

It doesn't scream Parkinson's to me as Parkinson's is usually slowly progressive rather than episodic initially but without getting more history or physical it is a possibility.

In the general population partial seizure would be less likely but given her history of cerebral venous thrombosis I actually think partial seizures are very high on the differential. Cerebral venous thromboses are essentially a type of stroke that can cause seizures. Not all seizures are the tonic clonic classic seizures everyone thinks. Sometimes they can be as subtle as focal weakness or uncontrollable limb. Seizures can begin with an aura that give a warning that they will progress. Perhaps evac was begun when she sensed an aura but was not quick enough.

This is only conjecture and we are without the luxury of a candid history or a physical and vitals. If I had this patient and accompanied video with limited history as we do she would be getting a cardiac and neuro work-up. The alternative is missing a serious diagnosis (arrythmia or seizure) and another event happening while the patient is driving putting herself and innocents at risk. For a 68 year old with her history "overheated" or dehydrated is definitely a diagnosis of exclusion. Any affirmation otherwise without appropriate testing is bad medicine or a blatant lie.

[DJ Urbanovsky]

Remember, this is what a heat injury/pneumonia casualty looks like approximately two hours after being unable to stand or walk. Walking out of her daughter's apartment, not a hospital. Because I know that when I require medical attention, the first place I head is over to my kids house...

http://media.breitbart.com/media/201...-602406230.jpg

[Sdiver]

Originally Posted by Patriot007

It doesn't scream Parkinson's to me as Parkinson's is usually slowly progressive rather than episodic initially but without getting more history or physical it is a possibility.

In the general population partial seizure would be less likely but given her history of cerebral venous thrombosis I actually think partial seizures are very high on the differential. Cerebral venous thromboses are essentially a type of stroke that can cause seizures. Not all seizures are the tonic clonic classic seizures everyone thinks. Sometimes they can be as subtle as focal weakness or uncontrollable limb. Seizures can begin with an aura that give a warning that they will progress. Perhaps evac was begun when she sensed an aura but was not quick enough.

This is only conjecture and we are without the luxury of a candid history or a physical and vitals. If I had this patient and accompanied video with limited history as we do she would be getting a cardiac and neuro work-up. The alternative is missing a serious diagnosis (arrythmia or seizure) and another event happening while the patient is driving putting herself and innocents at risk. For a 68 year old with her history "overheated" or dehydrated is definitely a diagnosis of exclusion. Any affirmation otherwise without appropriate testing is bad medicine or a blatant lie.

Agree, there needs to be a work up as well as a complete Hx completed.

This just flashed up over on FB and I've read that this woman is not just an aid, but Hillary's personal physician, who actually specializes in neurological issues.

I'll see if I can find the reference(s)

[tonyz]

Patrin potentially identified the doctor in an earlier post.

Originally Posted by Patrin

Meet Lisa R. Bardack, MD

http://www.caremountmedical.com/dire.../lisa-bardack/

Hildog has to be one sick lady to require the service of a personal MD to walk to and from transport.

She is to the right, holding Hitlary's hand (or taking her pulse).

[Box]

...this is a non-event.

Face it folks; madam secretary already has the receipt for her 272 electoral votes.


She will probably even claim the cost against her taxes as a business expense.

[PSM]

Originally Posted by Billy L-bach

...this is a non-event.

Face it folks; madam secretary already has the receipt for her 272 electoral votes.

I remember Bill Daley running around during the 2000 election yelling that they had 2000 (or 2200) more votes in Florida. He KNEW how many they had bought...just like his father in 1960.

BTW, Hildabeast's mentor (as well as Obama's thanks to our awesome higher education system), Saul Alinsky, was close with Al Capone's gang:

Alinsky, a Jewish University of Chicago graduate who embedded himself with the Al Capone gang as a form of real-life study for his criminology degree - he told Playboy he befriended the mob's top executioner by showing interest in a story about a "broad" in Detroit - eventually modeled his theory of confronting elected officials off labor unions' methods. Though he had been dead long before Obama came to Chicago, his effect lingered: Gregory Galluzzo, one of Obama's teachers, told Lizza of his respect for Alinsky, "I regard myself as St. Paul who never met Jesus."

(I used ABC news on purpose. Are you resting in peace Peter Jennings? I hope not!)

Link: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-saul-alinsky/

Pat

[tonyz]

Did not see this video posted here - tinfoil?
Hard to tell when Clinton is so secretive about her health.

"Hillary Clinton has 1 Year to Live," says Medical School Professor
C. Ervana

https://youtu.be/HoBL7fqOVcQ

[Trapper John]

Originally Posted by Sdiver

Agree, there needs to be a work up as well as a complete Hx completed.

This just flashed up over on FB and I've read that this woman is not just an aid, but Hillary's personal physician, who actually specializes in neurological issues.

I'll see if I can find the reference(s)

I agree. The pneumonia story was a good attempt by HRC's campaign to put out a plausible explanation, but the recovery period on Sunday does not fit with severe dehydration. The Doc in the pic is clearly doing a neurological assessment.

This all stems from her TBI followed by episodic seizures.

She received one of the injectable anti-convulsants in Chelsea's apartment. She would be good to go within a few minutes in that scenario. She is probably on oral lorazepam or one of the other long-term anticonvulsants to function daily. She would still be prone to periodic episodes, hence the doc by her side and a readily available source of the injectable anti-convulsant.

It would appear that the seizures are failing to be controlled by her meds at this point. She can't take stronger oral meds as the side effects would put her in a very drousy and incoherent state.

Oh, and don't expect release of her medical records to shed any light on this. What we will see is hundreds of pages of stuff that is just a misdirection. If the truth were known she would be medically disqualified. If the situation is rapidly getting worse as it appears, look for the DNC to remove her and drop in Uncle Joe. That's the contingency plan and time is running out to pull that trigger.

Everything will be riding on her debate performance IMO.

[Trapper John]

Originally Posted by Brush Okie

In your professional opinion would a priest with Holy water performing an exorcism get rid of the seizures or just make them worse ?

On a serious note do you think this is a left over from her supposed TIA (probably a stroke in reality) or is this a series of TIA's that is ongoing? As you know multi TIA's are many times a precursor to a major CVA. I think all agree there is some type of neurological issue going on.

TIAs are a possibility and can be brought on by dehydration. In her case, however, I think these episodes are seizures and the proximate cause is the TBI back in 2013.

I am basing this on the very rapid recovery time of the latest incident on Sunday. If these were TIAs I cannot believe her medical team would not hospitalize her for a stroke work up. She's been having multiple incidents and that would be expected for seizures secondary to the TBI. They have her managed with oral anti-convulsants and are monitoring her for incidents.

If these were TIAs then there is medical malpractice here. Her doc wouldn't do that. JMHO

[Trapper John]

As to your first question, Okie. No priest is going to sprinkle Holy Water on her. She'd burst into flames!

[Sdiver]

Originally Posted by Trapper John

I agree. The pneumonia story was a good attempt by HRC's campaign to put out a plausible explanation, but the recovery period on Sunday does not fit with severe dehydration. The Doc in the pic is clearly doing a neurological assessment.

This all stems from her TBI followed by episodic seizures.

She received one of the injectable anti-convulsants in Chelsea's apartment. She would be good to go within a few minutes in that scenario. She is probably on oral lorazepam or one of the other long-term anticonvulsants to function daily. She would still be prone to periodic episodes, hence the doc by her side and a readily available source of the injectable anti-convulsant.

It would appear that the seizures are failing to be controlled by her meds at this point. She can't take stronger oral meds as the side effects would put her in a very drousy and incoherent state.

Oh, and don't expect release of her medical records to shed any light on this. What we will see is hundreds of pages of stuff that is just a misdirection. If the truth were known she would be medically disqualified. If the situation is rapidly getting worse as it appears, look for the DNC to remove her and drop in Uncle Joe. That's the contingency plan and time is running out to pull that trigger.

Everything will be riding on her debate performance IMO.

Which would explain this little "gem" caught on tape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKoD_FjBLWI

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