12-28-2015, 17:04
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So with Obamacare as a given now, Trump wants to replace that with a government sponsored healthcare system. Ok. The fact is we need some sort of healthcare solution to replace the system we have now. He has presented a solution. What do you see as the problem with the solution?
As for the other links, apparently he held different positions 10-15+ years ago.
That makes him human. Which candidate do you support that holds the same positions today that he has 15 years ago?
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12-28-2015, 19:12
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I say give him a shot at it. He could screw it up just as hard as he wanted to for 8 years and we'd still be in better shape than we are with a marxist quisling in the saddle.
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12-29-2015, 09:34
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So with Obamacare as a given now, Trump wants to replace that with a government sponsored healthcare system. Ok. The fact is we need some sort of healthcare solution to replace the system we have now. He has presented a solution. What do you see as the problem with the solution?
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Socialist medicine provides vastly inferior care. Perhaps you can name anything the Government does better than the private sector.
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As for the other links, apparently he held different positions 10-15+ years ago.
That makes him human. Which candidate do you support that holds the same positions today that he has 15 years ago?
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Actually it makes him a whore who is deceiving you like the other politicians everyone claims to be tired of. I have known Ted Cruz personally for 25 years, and he is the same guy today he was when I met him.
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12-29-2015, 10:03
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Socialist medicine provides vastly inferior care. Perhaps you can name anything the Government does better than the private sector.
Actually it makes him a whore who is deceiving you like the other politicians everyone claims to be tired of. I have known Ted Cruz personally for 25 years, and he is the same guy today he was when I met him.
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Can you ask him about this then?
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/ted-c...182057600.html
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12-29-2015, 10:44
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Socialist medicine provides vastly inferior care. Perhaps you can name anything the Government does better than the private sector.
Actually it makes him a whore who is deceiving you like the other politicians everyone claims to be tired of. I have known Ted Cruz personally for 25 years, and he is the same guy today he was when I met him.
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Cruz is fine with me; love the guy. Just wish he had a little more bass gravel in the voicebox.
But, I don't think he's gonna lay into BJ Clinton like The Don's fixing to... 
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12-29-2015, 15:16
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I have known Ted Cruz personally for 25 years, and he is the same guy today he was when I met him.
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Please call him and tell him to take off the gloves like he did going after the debate agitators! I love him but Trump has this in the bag if he can't shake a politicians political correctness.
I do have to say the press and the GOP has been going hard after Cruz. They seem more threatened by him than by Trump. I'll take either of the two but no one else and I would LOVE a Trump/Cruz ticket (but don't really see that happening).
And I'm sure he would like to know that there are a lot of Green Berets that have his back!
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12-29-2015, 15:22
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Trump is beginning to remind me of a rich kid who never had his ass kicked. IMO, every human male needs to lose, at something, at least once in his life. Bar fight, boxing ring, wrestling mat, SFAS, you name it, a guy just needs to know that he can't use physical force to get through life. I haven't seen anything coming from Trump that would show he has been forced to eat "humble pie". The result is he comes across as an obnoxious ass who will never get enough independent votes to win a general, nationwide election.
I also think that he is a plant, and that as soon as he starts losing primaries, he will declare himself a 3rd party candidate with the intent of drawing votes away from the GOP like Perot did to Bush I. However, I don't yet have enough evidence to prove this supposition yet.
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12-29-2015, 17:58
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Cruz is fine with me; love the guy. Just wish he had a little more bass gravel in the voicebox.
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Love him or not the beauty of Trump is his willingness to tangle with the Clintons and to call an ace an ace. Hillary will not get a pass with him and I hope he continues to play what some perceive to be the bully role.
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12-29-2015, 18:40
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Love him or not the beauty of Trump is his willingness to tangle with the Clintons and to call an ass an ass.
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Fixed it! 
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12-29-2015, 18:53
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Love him or not the beauty of Trump is his willingness to tangle with the Clintons and to call an ace an ace. Hillary will not get a pass with him and I hope he continues to play what some perceive to be the bully role.
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Concur 100%
Billary is a juicy target protected only by the slimebag lib press and handwringers.
Trump don't give a flyin' flip, and if he gets the coverage doing what the RINOS haven't had the cojones to do, the world can be a pizza pie.
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12-29-2015, 19:44
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Concur 100%
Billary is a juicy target protected only by the slimebag lib press and handwringers.
Trump don't give a flyin' flip, and if he gets the coverage doing what the RINOS haven't had the cojones to do, the world can be a pizza pie.
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I'm sure the Clinton campaign will play the victim card as ruthlessly as they can.
And while I think the slice of society that utilises, condones, or just passively accepts the cult of victimhood is growing....I think the risk of "victimhood backlash" is also growing.
Whatever it takes to protect the Supreme Court.
4 Supreme Court Justices(2 Reagan appointees, 2 Clinton) aged 82, 79, 78, 77.
The Trump position flip/flips over time are concerning.
Same for the ruthlessness and questionable ethics he has displayed in his business history.
Not that I think Trump is an ideal candidate(far from it), but every day that passes without course correction is going to compel the need for increased ruthlessness.
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12-29-2015, 19:54
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Fixed it!
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I was being kind, I can not think of a single redeemable quality that those two asses possess.
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12-29-2015, 20:11
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I was being kind, I can not think of a single redeemable quality that those two asses possess.
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Well there is....
Uh, oh don't forget uhh...
Yeah, you're right not one redeemable quality.
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12-30-2015, 03:02
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The Subaru drivers won in '08 and '12.
The pickup truck drivers want Trump for '16.
Much better outlook for stability with Cruz running point, but...it's time to go on the offensive with speed, surprise and violence of action on so many levels it's ridiculous, or our enemies will win-point blank.
We can lobby and vote for Cruz as the nominee, but everybody better vote for The Don if he gets the nominee or get themselves into a sustainable position with potable water, security and a food source.
(Might wanna do that, anyway, because Trump's a wild man.)
No, I don't have a bunker. I'm not an Armageddon Freak. I'm just advising that if the rudder doesn't get moved about 180 degrees, the ship is heading into a maelstrom that you better be battened down to weather.
Aargh.
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12-30-2015, 03:51
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I have known Ted Cruz personally for 25 years, and he is the same guy today he was when I met him.
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Ask him what he will do to rescind this infernal socialist experiment of allowing women into combat arms, SOF, et al (since he doesn't answer his constituents emails anymore).
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