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Old 12-04-2015, 02:44   #31
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Fundamentally transform America?

Mission Accomplished!

Riddle me this: Will a Republican president have the wherewithal to restore sanity to the military?
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Old 12-04-2015, 05:13   #32
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trannies serving with honor is the next big move... I expect to start hearing about that within the next 60-90 days

consider this about Army Secretary Erik Fanning...
-He is the highest ranking openly gay member of the Department of Defense.
-He favors the adoption by the U.S. military of a policy prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.
-He supports allowing openly transgender persons to serve in the military
-He was a member of the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund for 3 or 4 years before entering government service

...longer than 90 days before you start hearing about trannies would be a huge surprise to me. This is something that needs to be accomplished BEFORE the POTUS leaves office so there is no time to waste.
Plus, if it makes the news during the REAL election cycle it can be used as liberal fodder to help get another SJW into the white house
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Old 12-04-2015, 06:33   #33
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trannies serving with honor is the next big move... I expect to start hearing about that within the next 60-90 days

consider this about Army Secretary Erik Fanning...
-He is the highest ranking openly gay member of the Department of Defense.
-He favors the adoption by the U.S. military of a policy prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.
-He supports allowing openly transgender persons to serve in the military
-He was a member of the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund for 3 or 4 years before entering government service

...longer than 90 days before you start hearing about trannies would be a huge surprise to me. This is something that needs to be accomplished BEFORE the POTUS leaves office so there is no time to waste.
Plus, if it makes the news during the REAL election cycle it can be used as liberal fodder to help get another SJW into the white house
Yep! Funny, my buds in the five sided funhouse tell me that in the same meetings where the civilian appointees say having trannies won't result in any issues they start badgering the military folks to explain why there aren't more combat arms homosexuals serving out of the closet

The answer : gay culture isn't culturally conducive to small level unit cohesion in US units. Their solution: if butch lesbians don't change that now, then we'll need extra special leadership pressure to change that culture and sensitivity training...

Notice Votel laid the onus mostly on leadership to make all this work. Implied message: if a woman fails in your training or operations unit- you will be fired...

Soon: if gays don't serve openly in your combat arms unit, you will be fired...
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Old 12-04-2015, 07:23   #34
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Fundamentally change America

"Fundamentally change America"

All Zero is going to do is divide America an America for which he cares nothing about, until it explodes.

The movie "The Purge" makes more and more sense......
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Old 12-04-2015, 08:28   #35
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"Fundamentally change America"

All Zero is going to do is divide America an America for which he cares nothing about, until it explodes.

The movie "The Purge" makes more and more sense......
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Old 12-04-2015, 10:08   #36
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there is even a cool YouTube video....

LOOK FOR, "Statement from USSOCOM on SECDEF's Women in Service Review"



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Ahh. Votel brought Thetford along with him.


I'll add:
If some others who've read this directive are correct, this affects not just those seeking combat positions, but total enlistee and officer branch assignments.

I take that to mean that female enlistees, ROTC and Academy grads who don't score high enough to pick their branch will get selected whether they want it or not.

I think that, if true, this little fact would have quite interesting consequences.
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Old 12-04-2015, 10:12   #37
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So when do the 18 Y/o Females sign up for selective Service??

I have no issues with my daughter signing up.

I think everyone should be writing their elective officials asking when this will be happening?
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Old 12-04-2015, 10:30   #38
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I am still in my first term at group. I have already decided that if there are females in the pipeline by the time I am up for reenlistment, I am out. My fellow new SF soldiers almost universally feel the same way. If I am going to work in a f-ed up mixed gender unit I will just go do it as a contractor and enjoy more control over my life. I started my time in the Army with lots of females around me and it is not an experience I care to repeat.
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Old 12-04-2015, 10:47   #39
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Awe man embrace the suck!

I figure the 18D program will have to add a week just to cover all the things teams will have to deal with. Vaginitis, chlamydia, UTIs, gonorhea and just plain old itchy pussy syndrome.
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Old 12-04-2015, 10:53   #40
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Interesting viewpoint from one of first female fighter pilots. Real details at 3:30 and on.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/464583737...#sp=show-clips

Bio posted says she had been around SEAL teams, not sure how, maybe intel background liaison? I honestly thought this was going to be one of those we can do it kinds of fluff pieces, but turns out she is soundly against the idea of integration, particularly in the elite units.

Just not something you see in the regular media very much.
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Old 12-04-2015, 12:48   #41
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It could just be me trying to be positive, but the overwhelmingly outraged response across the board gives me hope that something might be salvaged from this disaster of retarded proportions.

I don't see this as the end of our way of life. It's going to be an embarrassing mess to be sure, but the turnout is going to be underwhelming at the worst, and if that gets the people upstairs to shut up long enough that we can start the pendulum swinging back in the other direction. Don't get me wrong, I get nauseous at the thought of being the one of the few dudes that actually ends up having to deal with a female on the team, thankfully that is still a bridge to be crossed. I have some degree of faith that my peers and I will be able to turn this around and pull out a win in the end. Simply saying 'fuck it' and leaving at this point is the only sure way to let the stooges and their bullshit beat us.
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Old 12-04-2015, 15:53   #42
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Does this also come with mandatory enrollment for selective service?
Concur. That should have been included with the program statement, right up front. Wonder why they left that out
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Old 12-04-2015, 15:57   #43
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"Fundamentally change America"

All Zero is going to do is divide America an America for which he cares nothing about, until it explodes.

The movie "The Purge" makes more and more sense......
I think the o's last year in office will be horrid for this nation. He is not even quietly anti American any more; it's right out front now.
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Old 12-04-2015, 17:16   #44
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The thought that this will right itself and will swing back to normal is bullshit.

Name one thing from the Federal Gubmint or the military that has gone back to normal in any of our memories?

This is absolute transformation and weakening of the American people.
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Old 12-04-2015, 17:39   #45
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This policy will fail because the Government has NEVER done anything, on time, on budget and as promise. So there is still hope. Wonder how many meat eaters will go past minimum retirement age if they are forced to accept people in their units that only meet a lower standard of performance?
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