Anonymous declares war on Islamic State

[mugwump]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

Agree.....

"ISIS is one schism away from civil war"

I don't think you understand the muzzies. When they are not fighting with the West they are fighting amongst themselves.

And even when they are engaged with the West they continue to fight with themselves.

islam and the muzzies have been engaged in war for 2000+ years.

I think you're agreeing with me.

[mugwump]

Originally Posted by Joker

I do not know where you are getting this feed from, but it stinks.

History of man and his polities and religions, from elementary school boards of education, to Rome, to Christianity, Islam, and Buddhism. The more violent the underlying polity, the more violent the schism. You can't see these guys breaking into factions that call each other apostates?

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by mugwump

I think you're agreeing with me.

Keep dreaming.

[twistedsquid]

Nerdism. It's game is strong.

[Joker]

Originally Posted by mugwump

You can't see these guys breaking into factions that call each other apostates?

Not anytime soon. I attend countless hours of briefs, today alone 5 1/2 hours on this group. No one agrees with this statement.

Now other Sunni groups fighting them is a different story.

[frostfire]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

A bunch of twinkie eating couch potatoes and they are going to do what?
A DDOS attack on their websites?

they can do their attention-seeking teenage thing. Right now, ISIS reigns near unchallenged in their propaganda targeting the youth on social media. Anonymous can counter-flood Twitter, youtube, facebook, etc. with mime, clips, animation and other material that ridicule ISIS/Da'esh and sympathizers. No holds barred with how offensive it would be i.e. make a mime of Anwar Al-awlaki with his prostitutes in hell and so on. Our counter-message campaign Think Again Turn Way by State Department is pathetic at best. I thought the vids are well edited and persuasive, but the affiliation with USG discredits them immediately. Just see the meager view count on youtube and you can tell as soon as Andy, or Ahmed or Joken see the State Dept channel, they won't even bother to click.

Practically speaking, and this sounds mean as hell, Anonymous can also use this gullible teen who became ISIS canon fodder, and run massive ridiculous and humiliating social media campaign with his pictures. http://www.news.com.au/national/fres...95db4dc1bab492

[frostfire]

Originally Posted by mugwump

No, I think it will be agitprop to counter the message inside ISIS that the House of Saud is next in line to get the chop.

ISIS is one schism away from civil war and anything that gives them a push is useful. About 10,000 years of history has shown that is how you bring down a surging religious movement. Not bombs. All that does is create martyrs and solidarity.

Bombs and boots on the ground are a blunt tool wielded by idiots. Use some brains, foment a schism, pop some popcorn, and enjoy the YouTubes of them going medieval on each other.

Maybe the Russians can pull it off. I don't expect anyone in the United States government to do anything effective, whether Democrat or Republican.

mugwump,

these fanatics may have their fanaticism and the forced reaction from the rest of the world unifying them, but they are not without their defectors.
May not be enough to create schism, but enough to delegitimize, encourage more defectors (give more push to those scared and hesitating), and deter those wanting to join.

FWIW, I concur with the CIC standing his ground with not getting congressional declaration of war against ISIS or (overt) boots on the ground.
The Kurds is the most capable force there. There will be geopolitical impact for sure, but it may be the "best bad idea"

http://icsr.info/wp-content/uploads/...-Defectors.pdf

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-isis-spy.html

[tonyz]

An interesting look at the war online.

'Punching in the Dark': Why Islamic State Is Winning the Online War

In the wake of the Paris attacks, authorities are becoming increasingly concerned about Islamic State's skillful use of the Internet. So far, however, European countermeasures have been frustratingly ineffective. By SPIEGEL Staff
November 19, 2015 – 05:07 PM

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...a-1063490.html

ETA: link to study referred to in the article above.

http://www.quilliamfoundation.org/wp...a-strategy.pdf

[MtnGoat]

This is nothing new really, Th3 J3S3T3R has been doing this for at least three years.

One of the biggest problems with anything online, just like the Dark Web Silk Road. Once it is shut down, Web Site, Facebook, Twitter, any Social Media Site. THEY can start up a new page or profile.

As for as taking money, that's a bigger story. Very Hard to do, and to get away with it.

As far as publishing any accounts and address, it would be depend on the country that those accounts are tied to. But once they publish any those accounts, the owner can withdraw fund, electronic or hard, and move them. If in a Arab Nation, then the move of Hard cash would be very hard.

Dark Web is great and fun, but it is easy for the people on it. Hard for other and unknown to SO MANY!!

Keep in mind most of ISIS Social Media and Online leaders are all educated in Western countries. The main guy is USA (Northwestern) Educated in Computer Science. They are about as smart as ANONYMOUS, just don't have the numbers that ANONYMOUS has.

IMO the FBI, DHS, and other Letter Agencies should have been doing this long time ago. But likely that it takes the POTUS approval, and we can all see how much he has approved for the military option.

Canada and UK have a really good Social Media Counter ISIS Task Forces. We should be taking notes!

[MtnGoat]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

So Anonymous does this, what do you think we will do? We've known (for decades) that the Saudi's, Packies, Turks, Agans, etc fund terrorism against the west.

You forgot Kuwait, UAE and Qatar.

[x SF med]

I think Mugwump needs to read:

Kim, by Rudyard Kipling - for a historical perspective of the Islamic regional issues as seen from a colonial British POV

and

War at the Top of the World, by Eric Margolis - for a current view of the region, and to see how little has changed in the Islamic region.


Both books are based in the heart of the Silk Road Crossing.... which has always been a hotbed of dissent. Spoiler alert... the Pashtun are still around.... and they can be vilified by other Muslims, due to their animistic (not animalistic) version of Islam that is considered impure and incorporates parts of the local pre-Islamic beliefs.

[Sdiver]

Lt. Col. West posted this on his blog. Not known for posting up random "crap", this very well maybe a credible threat.

ALERT: Anonymous uncovers ISIS plan to attack 7 cities TOMORROW…including this U.S. city

It’s clear Islamic jihadists are on a rampage, with two major attacks in the past eight days and multiple others apparently narrowly averted. The Belgian capital of Brussels is currently on lockdown and at the highest levels of alert, indicating a “serious and immediate threat,” after an “arsenal” of explosives and chemicals was discovered in a home raid earlier.

Now, we’re getting word of ISIS’ plans to attack several locations tomorrow, Sunday — including the U.S. city of Atlanta, Georgia. The report from the online activist group Anonymous — which declared war against ISIS in the wake of the Paris attacks — is reportedly being taken “seriously” by the FBI.

As International Business Times reports:

Anonymous, the loose collective of online activists, said Saturday it has uncovered information about Islamic State group attacks in Paris as well as at locations in the U.S., Indonesia, Italy and Lebanon, all apparently set for Sunday. OpParisIntel, a group within Anonymous, released a statement saying it had collected information about imminent attacks by the militant group — aka Daesh, ISIL and ISIS — in the French capital a little more than a week after a series of coordinated attacks there left 130 dead and hundreds injured.

Anonymous also said the Islamic State group is planning an assault at the WWE Survivor Series event scheduled to take place in the Philips Arena in Atlanta Sunday at 7.30 p.m. EST, as well as attacks at multiple events in Paris.

The collective published the list of potential targets alongside a statement: “The goal is to make sure the whole world, or at least the people going to these events, know that there have been threats and that there is possibility of an attack to happen. Another goal is to make sure Daesh knows that the world knows and cancels the attacks, which will disorientate them for a while.”


The targets listed by Anonymous are as follow:
•Cigales Electroniques with Vocodecks, RE-Play & Rawtor at Le Bizen (Paris)
•Concrete Invites Drumcode: Adam Beyer, Alan Fitzpatrick, Joel Mull at Concrete (Paris)
•Demonstration by Collectif du Droit des Femmes (Paris)
•Feast of Christ the King celebrations (Rome/Worldwide)
•Al-Jihad, One Day One Juz (Indonesia)
•Five Finger Death Punch (Milan)
•University Pastoral Day (Holy Spirit University of Kaslik, Lebanon)

According to Anonymous: “We only appeared now because our goal was to remain undercover and report everything to the right authorities and let them take all the action. But when authorities do not take action, Anonymous does. This part of the op started last Monday and has [been] and will be active 24 hours a day as long as the op is going on.”

Speaking to International Business Times, Anonymous said it had passed proof to the MI5 intelligence agency in the U.K., the CIA and FBI in the U.S., and the Australian government but that it has no plans to release the proof publicly. “If we share the proof [publicly], everyone will start calling it fake because screenshots can be edited and accounts can be deleted. We have purposely not shared account links publicly because they would be shut down immediately and then no one would believe the proof.”

Anonymous declared war on the Islamic State group last week, vowing to track it down online as part of its Operation Paris (or OpParis). It has since released a guide for all those looking to take part in the operation, which already has identified tens of thousands of Twitter accounts it said are associated with the militant group while also taking some websites offline. The Islamic State group has responded to the threat by Anonymous, warning of a retaliatory attack on the activist group.

Local Atlanta news reports speaking with the director of the Georgia Emergency Management Agency, Jim Butterworth, who said his agency is working closely with the FBI, the Georgia Information Sharing and Analysis Center and others in evaluating the threat on a Sunday WWE event in Atlanta reported by the group Anonymous.

While we don’t wish to be alarmist, we do feel a responsibility to keep y’all informed. In cases like this, we certainly pray the threats don’t pan out.

http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/11/al...this-u-s-city/

[WarriorDiplomat]

Originally Posted by Joker

Not anytime soon. I attend countless hours of briefs, today alone 5 1/2 hours on this group. No one agrees with this statement.

Now other Sunni groups fighting them is a different story.

After the CENTCOM debacle?

[Five-O]

Originally Posted by Sdiver

Lt. Col. West posted this on his blog. Not known for posting up random "crap", this very well maybe a credible threat.

Philadelphia Eagles game tomorrow if any ISIS guys would like to show up and get their asses handed to them by Philly fans. 1pm at the Linc.