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Old 11-18-2014, 13:41   #31
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Old 11-18-2014, 15:41   #32
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I really hope that all of the Western Muslim apologists are watching IS's actions.
Most Western Clerics refuse to condemn any extremists actions deeming it as the will of Allah because the Koran teaches eye for an eye justice.

The Foreign policy of appeasement has already been shown historically as counterproductive. It's eerily similar to how Hitler came to power with ISIS.
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Old 11-19-2014, 14:26   #33
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Most Western Clerics refuse to condemn any extremists actions deeming it as the will of Allah because the Koran teaches eye for an eye justice.
Just an educational point on the "eye for an eye" text. This rule is found in Deuteronomy 19. This entire chapter was to setup a part of the Jewish justice system, and this passage dealt specifically with people who bore false witness in court.

The entire text reads: "If a malicious witness takes the stand to accuse someone of a crime, the two people involved in the dispute must stand in the presence of the Lord before the priests and the judges who are in office at the time. The judges must make a thorough investigation, and if the witness proves to be a liar, giving false testimony against a fellow Israelite, then do to the false witness as that witness intended to do to the other party. You must purge the evil from among you. The rest of the people will hear of this and be afraid, and never again will such an evil thing be done among you. Show no pity: life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot."

Placed into context, the "eye for an eye" statement makes a lot more sense, and shows that the common usage of the passage is historically ignorant.

Additionally, nothing the Islamic State does could be confused for justice in any civilized society.
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Old 11-19-2014, 22:25   #34
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Just an educational point on the "eye for an eye" text. This rule is found in Deuteronomy 19. This entire chapter was to setup a part of the Jewish justice system, and this passage dealt specifically with people who bore false witness in court.

The entire text reads: "If a malicious witness takes the stand to accuse someone of a crime, the two people involved in the dispute must stand in the presence of the Lord before the priests and the judges who are in office at the time. The judges must make a thorough investigation, and if the witness proves to be a liar, giving false testimony against a fellow Israelite, then do to the false witness as that witness intended to do to the other party. You must purge the evil from among you. The rest of the people will hear of this and be afraid, and never again will such an evil thing be done among you. Show no pity: life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot."

Placed into context, the "eye for an eye" statement makes a lot more sense, and shows that the common usage of the passage is historically ignorant.

Additionally, nothing the Islamic State does could be confused for justice in any civilized society.
I never knew the roots of that saying. I knew it was religious connected but never knew or would have guessed it came from Judaism.

You're are right to point out my ignorant usage. I was attempting to simplify their way of thinking. I just watched a report on Anjem Choudary who not only refuses who condemn acts of violence from muslims from considers and teaches muslims any act of violence against westerners is justified by the invasion of iraq and afghanistan. This guy is just one example. New York City is beginning to look a lot like West England too. There are moving in and taking over slowly.

Articles like this freak me out http://speisa.com/modules/articles/i...-for-2016.html

Not saying that speisa.com is credible. Just the thought is enough to cause worry.
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Old 11-27-2014, 18:34   #35
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Why is no one using his mooselimb name? He converted didn't he?
I was not in this situation;but I pray to my beloved Lord that He gives me the strength to keep my faith if and when my time comes.Yes I read where he converted and the rags failed to honor their own teachings."Bullshit,we ain't taking no prisoners".
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