06-18-2014, 21:26
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But, he was an American citizen and covered by the Constitution. AAk, isn't and should not be afforded the protection of it.
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Not according to the SCOTUS.
But so it goes...
Richard
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06-18-2014, 21:43
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Originally Posted by Richard
Not according to the SCOTUS.
But so it goes...
Richard
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Honestly? Really, this may be true, but was there another case where a FN was captured outside the borders of the US and given guaranteed rights of a citizen?
BTW, SCOTUS also said that Obamacare is a tax. The Founding Fathers had little to nothing to say about the power of the Supreme Court beyond letting Congress establish one.
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The Judicial Power of the United States shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.
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06-18-2014, 21:44
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Giving a non-citizen Miranda Rights sets precedence. Plus, they gave him the alibi that they want him to use: "It was that blasphemous video!" But, hey, what difference, at this point, does it make? 
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My bet is that he does blame the attack on the video. Thereby allowing the current administration to wave its middle finger at the Benghazi hearings and generate more chatter supporting the next Libtard in line.
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06-18-2014, 21:55
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Unless they are going to give him some Edison medicine through his testicles for a couple of weeks, I'd rather they had just shot him on the spot.
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06-19-2014, 00:53
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I think Peregrino is just angry and cynical.
Mostly cynical.
...but angry too,
...and cynical.
I agree with him, but he's still angry and cynical.
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06-19-2014, 06:51
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I think Peregrino is just angry and cynical.
Mostly cynical.
...but angry too,
...and cynical.
I agree with him, but he's still angry and cynical.
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06-19-2014, 09:57
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Touché Sir. Touché.
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06-19-2014, 10:58
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AAK is a terrorist and a war criminal.
As he was not a member of a recognized force, nor did he follow the laws of land warfare himself, he is not entitled to the protections of the Conventions, is not a prisoner of war, nor is he a US citizen with the associated rights.
He should have received a field interrogation, followed by a summary execution.
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06-19-2014, 17:05
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AAK is a terrorist and a war criminal.
As he was not a member of a recognized force, nor did he follow the laws of land warfare himself, he is not entitled to the protections of the Conventions, is not a prisoner of war, nor is he a US citizen with the associated rights.
He should have received a field interrogation, followed by a summary execution.
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He does NOT have privileged combatant status. All these things Reaper states are true. But also - the very first two rules are: it must be a JUST war; and, he must be a lawful soldier acting in behalf of the just war (cause). Then he needs to do all the following... responsive to chain of Cmd; carry arms openly; recognizable symbol; abide by the laws of war; etc.
To treat him as a privileged belligerent is lunacy. Moreso as a criminal entity. he should have a cursory hearing aboard ship and then hung from the mast head. Political correctness and this adminstration would never allow that though....
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