03-03-2014, 15:07
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LEADERSHIP &CHANGE ??????
Do NOT Worry; WE, The USA have the Big 3 BHO, John Kerry, Joe Biden and don't forget HC on the sideline.....TK
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03-03-2014, 16:02
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Do NOT Worry; WE, The USA have the Big 3 BHO, John Kerry, Joe Biden and don't forget HC on the sideline.....TK
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... and there I saw ....
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03-03-2014, 23:48
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Oh, by the way, Russia has American hostages. Anybody remember the International Space Station?
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03-04-2014, 11:07
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U.S. prepares one billion in aid for Ukraine
In a somber show of U.S. support for Ukraine's new leadership, Secretary of State John Kerry walked the streets Tuesday where nearly 100 anti-war protesters were gunned down by police last month, and promised beseeching crowds that American aid is on the way.
http://news.yahoo.com/us-prepares-1b...-politics.html
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03-04-2014, 11:21
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Originally Posted by mojaveman
In a somber show of U.S. support for Ukraine's new leadership, Secretary of State John Kerry walked the streets Tuesday where nearly 100 anti-war protesters were gunned down by police last month, and promised beseeching crowds that American aid is on the way.
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Why not just save time and wire the money straight to Putin?
I understand there is likely not enough US strategic interest here to do much, but why pro-actively make hollow promises to people in harms way you have no intention of keeping? Our allies are watching in ever dangerous world.
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03-04-2014, 12:08
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Why would anyone want to be a friend of America today?
Being an enemy is much more lucrative and lower risk.
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03-04-2014, 12:37
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Why would anyone want to be a friend of America today?
Being an enemy is much more lucrative and lower risk.
TR
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Excellent question.
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03-04-2014, 14:08
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I wonder where Saudi Arabia and the GCC fit into this?
Little to no coverage on that.
With the long-term proxy battles between Soviet Union/Russia and Saudi/GCC across multiple conflicts, it will be interesting to see what they do and how it would fit into globally exported islamic extremism.
Is Russia taking a bite out of Ukraine more like Hitler taking Sudetenland or Stalin taking Eastern Poland?
Hitler was the enemy.
Stalin was the enemy, but was also the enemy of our enemy so became our temporary ally of convenience and necessity.
At what stage does Russia being chewed apart at its periphery by Saudi/GCC supported insurgencies and eaten internally by a bad economy and demographics turn from a good thing to a bad thing for the US and it's allies?
What's the greater threat:
Renewed aggression from Russia or islamic extremism?
In any case, all this global instability with the US stepping back from it's role of global cop will surely have a whole lot of people looking at the less than awesome consequence…….and looking at the shrinking number of safe havens to invest/store your money.
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03-05-2014, 06:37
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How come the western media never mentions that Russia has a treaty with the Ukraine concerning it's military property based there. It says that if the shit hit's the fan in the Ukraine. Russia can send in troops to secure their military assets. So far that's exactly what they been doing. We have the same treaty with a bunch of countries where our Military is based.
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03-05-2014, 08:42
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A good read.
"But this crisis is Putin’s Waterloo, not ours.
Which brings us to perhaps the most bizarre element of watching the Crimean situation unfold through a US-centric lens: the iron-clad certainty of the pundit class that Putin is winning and Obama is losing. The exact opposite is true."
http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...cs-credibility
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03-05-2014, 14:31
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1) We need Russia for supply chain to Central Asia, so let's threaten them
2) What kgoerz said
3) We thought the troop build up was just a show
Maybe if our Foreign Intel agencies spent more time on Foreigners and less time spying on Americans they'd let our leadership know what's going on.
Or maybe the leadership is incompetent or sadly both are
Either way they all look like morons and fools...
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03-05-2014, 15:23
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Originally Posted by Richard
A good read.
"But this crisis is Putin’s Waterloo, not ours.
Which brings us to perhaps the most bizarre element of watching the Crimean situation unfold through a US-centric lens: the iron-clad certainty of the pundit class that Putin is winning and Obama is losing. The exact opposite is true."
http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...cs-credibility
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Man, I'm glad I read that. I thought Obama had reneged on a pledge to protect Ukraine from invasion so that they'd de-nuke and disarm, then wussed out. Whew!
So, this isn't like Syria or Iran, at all? Whew!
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03-05-2014, 15:47
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03-05-2014, 17:18
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US Warship Given Permission To Cross Bosphorus, Enter Black Sea
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...nter-black-sea
From the article:
Yesterday it was two Russian and one Ukrainian warships which had crossed the Bosphorus in direction Crimea, today it is the Americans. As Hurriyet reports, Turkish authorities have given permission to a U.S. Navy warship to pass through the Bosphorus within the next two days as fears grow that the standoff between Russia and Ukraine and the West over Crimea could soon become militarized.
Turkish sources, speaking with the Hürriyet Daily News on March 5, declined to elaborate on the name of the U.S. warship. The same officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, however, noted that it was not the USS George H.W. Bush nuclear aircraft carrier as suggested in some news reports, as it did not meet the standards specified by the 1936 Montreux Convention in terms of weight.
The U.S. Navy ship to pass through the straits will conform to the convention’s standards, the sources said.
According to the Montreux Convention, the total weight of military ships that non-littoral states to the Black Sea may deploy to the body of water cannot exceed 45,000 tons.
As a reminder we have been tracking the CVN-77 for the past week, ever since it crossed the straits of Gibraltar and as of yesterday it was in Piraeus, Greece. It is also worth noting that while the Montreux Convention provides guidelines, it is not restrictive, which means that should the US really want to, it will have no problems getting its aircraft carrier into the Black Sea.
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