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Old 12-04-2012, 22:00   #31
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My point is that the American political right's treatment of American history undermines its ability to achieve its political agenda.

Too many on the right act as if matters of continued debate were settled in the late eighteenth century.
Original intent is important for the same reasons legislative history is important in understanding an ambiguous text. There is a process for amending the Constitution if people want to change it. Judges are not supposed to be part of that process.

And before you continue arguing that political realities allow liberal judges to rewrite the Constitution when they feel like it, you might think about the fact that we could just start killing people we don't agree with since we could theoretically do that too. The Rule of Law depends on judges to restrain themselves, not pursue their political agendas from the bench. That's the same Rule of Law that we all depend upon to avoid Hobbesian reality, so you might take it more seriously.

P.S. WTF is "MOO"? Is there a connection with "and so it goes . . ."?
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Old 12-04-2012, 22:01   #32
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...I raised it into the discussion simply to put forth the idea that America hasn't - in my view - reached the point of intolerance discussed during that period.
Well, since you put it that way.

MOO, while history doesn't repeat itself and while I think that America has been through worse crises than the ones we currently face, I'm increasingly concerned with the way many Americans are perceiving current events as the results of orchestrated conspiracies among those in power who willfully disregard the rule of law to the exclusion of other explanations. I think that if people on both sides of the aisle don't do more to challenge this perception, it may end up being the reality.

YMMV.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:51   #33
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P.S. WTF is "MOO"? Is there a connection with "and so it goes . . ."?
MOO is like WTF and YMMV, with a definite connection to "and so it goes..." and "There you go again...". Now if you ask my two year old, he might tell you that MOO comes from the opposite bovine pole of YMMV. Then again maybe its all the same.
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Old 12-05-2012, 23:56   #34
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Excellent list. I'll take it with me to the gun show tomorrow and do a little Christmas shopping.
I better come home for a quick vacation and pick up one of those PTR-91s that I've been wanting for awhile.
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:14   #35
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The US has been in decline since the socialist FDR took office. WWII awoke the people for a short time and they went to work on the job at hand...winning the war. After it had been hard won, they started dozing off again. Ever since the power hungry Johnson slipped in his "Great Society", they have been in a coma. There have been gun grabs ever since 1934, but fortunately for the US, not all have been napping. For those of you guys that haven't read Unintended Consequences by John Ross have missed out on a good read. It can be downloaded free in PDF(3.8 MB-749pp) HERE.

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Old 12-10-2012, 10:35   #36
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The US has been in decline since the socialist FDR took office.
Yup, the only time America was a great nation was during the
Roaring Twenties
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