Why Did Obama Win the Obama Vote? - Page 3

Dusty · 11-11-2012, 12:44

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Originally Posted by Sigaba

MOO, arguments of "false concsciousness" among one cohort or another was at the core of. Communism's failure as a political philosophy. Telling people that they shouldn't be concerned with what they're concerned with just feeds into the dynamic that has tthe GOP on the outside looking in.

If you mean the liberals convincing kids they shouldn't worry about the difference between right and wrong, I agree.

Sigaba · 11-11-2012, 12:53

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Originally Posted by Dusty

If you mean the liberals convincing kids they shouldn't worry about the difference between right and wrong, I agree.

As I see it, the issue is that too many Americans make 100% agreement and absolute conformity a precondition for treating others with respect and dignity.

afchic · 11-11-2012, 12:54

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Originally Posted by Dusty

Education as opposed to propaganda.

The points of view of many women have been manipulated by leftists to the point that birth control is not only the prime political issue, but the only one.

Freedom, in this Country, is taking a second place to distracting points of argument.

There are other areas in which women (and men) have been led down the wrong path, but for both past elections, BC has been the most crucial next the entitlement carrot.

I've never intended to imply that women aren't smart enough to figure out that they're being led around the block by leftists with an agenda to dismantle America's foundation, but it obviously hasn't dawned on the ones who voted for re-election.

We don't have that many to educate; it's not like Obama won by a landslide.

I am sure there are women out there who are single issue voters, and BC may be that issue for some of them. But I don't believe that to ne the case with a majority of women.

Women now make up 47% of the workforce and are 60% more likely to earn a bachelors degree than men. It is my belief the Dems make a more coherent argument to these women, and the Repubs have allowed them to do it.

Until we can make.a coherent argument based on economics to tjese women.we.are going to continue to see the gender gap. By having more prominent women speaking out for the Republican view of the world, we will start to.see a.difference. But when women.such as Ann Colter and Laura Ingram are continued to be seen as women's republican voice we won't win the argumnet.

Women like Ms. Love in Utah and others like her have to have a more prominent voice in our party.

**Pete** · 11-11-2012, 12:59

Well, with the 28 hour work week fixin' to be the anti Obamacare fix for staying under the 30 hour full time employment threshold looks like more and more folks will be able to sit at home and watch TV to become more informed .

Papa John's and Applebees are taking some heat - with a little word twisting help from the MSM - right now because they announced it but look for just about any food service, hotel cleaning, odd job place that can get away with it start reducing worker's hours.

Hmm, thinking on that - looks to be a lot of low end workers fixin' to take it in the shorts because of Obamacare.

Dusty · 11-11-2012, 13:07

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Originally Posted by Pete

Well, with the 28 hour work week fixin' to be the anti Obamacare fix for staying under the 30 hour full time employment threshold looks like more and more folks will be able to sit at home and watch TV to become more informed.

Depends on the channel. Could easily get dumber.

MR2 · 11-11-2012, 13:10

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Originally Posted by Dusty

Depends on the channel. Could easily get dumber.

I think that was his point!

**Pete** · 11-11-2012, 13:11

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Originally Posted by Dusty

Depends on the channel. Could easily get dumber.

I fixed it - went to pink.

Dusty · 11-11-2012, 13:20

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Originally Posted by Pete

I fixed it - went to pink.

lol I only now caught a snap on that one.

98G · 11-11-2012, 13:29

As a female who did go through a particularly violent attempted rape, many many years ago, comments on the subject do pique my interest.

No, I am not a single issue voter. If I was, that would be my right, but I am not. That said, guess how much I admire the Republican Party for trying to define itself in primaries by how pro-life a candidate can be to the point of faulty biology.

If you truly want to figure out why President Obama was reeclected, I suggest some time watching MSNBC in equal amounts of time to Fox. It can start switching from Fox and Friends to Morning Joe (hosted by a moderate Republican).

Any time I wanted to understand the Soviets, I did not look to US sources to do it. Intel is not gleened from talking to eachother about "them."

Just my 2 cents.

**Pete** · 11-11-2012, 13:33

Point being - go back to the Obamacare threads we had here when the bill was being fought over and finally passed.

We knew back then the bad stuff didn't start kicking in until 2013 - after the 2012 elections.

We knew back then companies would find it cheaper to dump their plans and pay the fines.

So should anybody really be surprised when their plan is dumped, their hours cut?

Dusty · 11-11-2012, 13:34

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Originally Posted by 98G

If you truly want to figure out why President Obama was reeclected, I suggest some time watching MSNBC in equal amounts of time to Fox. It can start switching from Fox and Friends to Morning Joe (hosted by a moderate Republican).

Any time I wanted to understand the Soviets, I did not look to US sources to do it. Intel is not gleened from talking to eachother about "them."

Just my 2 cents.

I don't even get FOX, and I graduated from O&I over 20 years ago. Thanks, anyway.

**The Reaper** · 11-11-2012, 13:35

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Originally Posted by Sigaba

As I see it, the issue is that too many Americans make 100% agreement and absolute conformity a precondition for treating others with respect and dignity.

Where is the call for Dems to repudiate their extreme positions?

I don't recall a lot of bi-partisan outreach in the 2009-2011 period when the Democrats had near-total control of the legislative process. They rammed legislation they wanted through and to hell with any opposition that could not muster the votes to stop it. Votes were bought from the opposition to close the deal in a manner that would have made Huey Long proud. They passed legislation that they themselves had not completely read, without allowing public review, and as the administration promised in 2008.

The election results lead me to believe that there is a very close margin in this country of opposing views.

Should we adopt positions by the number of voters they garner, or by the benefit of the position to the principles the nation was founded on?

Is the solution offered now for Republicans to become Democrats in all but names?

TR

Dusty · 11-11-2012, 13:36

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Originally Posted by Sigaba

As I see it, the issue is that too many Americans make 100% agreement and absolute conformity a precondition for treating others with respect and dignity.

They sure do. Especially Axelrod, Reid and Pelosi.

**Pete** · 11-11-2012, 15:06

Welcome to the party folks.

Link in, scroll down and follow the links.

http://www.dailyjobcuts.com/

Badger52 · 11-11-2012, 16:06

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Originally Posted by Pete

Welcome to the party folks.

Link in, scroll down and follow the links.

http://www.dailyjobcuts.com/

Thank you Pete. That's like finding the ASP gate open. (The linked article RE Indiana's oldest ethanol plant shutting down (idling 40) was worth the ticket for its posting at 2151 hrs on 6 Nov.) As the local Chamber of Commerce's monthly after-hours member schmooze event gets smaller I wonder what the small-talk will turn to. Will any left in the room channel this thread: Why?

Economic couch potatoes are hard to wean; there is some exposure to the elements required to instill a desire to work oneself back into that cozy living room.