Potential Fraud/Poser????

Viking0815 · 10-10-2012, 15:46

All,

I am trying to confirm or deny, as the case may be, an individuals claim to have served as a QP in 7th and 10th and a OD-D operator.
I retired from 10SFG in 2005 and am now working as a DA civilian in Utah and upon accepting the position last August I was given an in-brief from this individual as the installation General Manager (GM) which is a GS -15 paygrade. Most of our discussion at that time didn't meet my QP validation process.

However, since the individual was in a position to hire and fire on the spot as an equivalent installation Commander, I didn't press the issue at the time.

Over the past year numerous personel on and off installation have approached me asking for verification of the individuals stated credentials because of the physical posturing and hero stories the individual keeps spewing out with every breath.

This particular individual has since departed and is now working for a private company, but has left a large number of the workforce on this installation with a bad taste in their mouth at the mention of SF.

Additionally, I have received information from other QP's that this individual may be a Fraud/Poser and has managed to utilize his self proclaimed military background as a tool to land numerous supervisory/executive level positions and then suddenly finds a life changing event to justify his departure before the questions and inquiries get too involved.

I have attached the individuals linkedin address. Please take a look and provide feed back so I can either confirm the fraud or dispell the local rumors and defend one of the brotherhood. I also have he individuals personal bio used for hire to the position he held here if needed.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/chris-grigsby/1a/560/61a

Thanks.

**Team Sergeant** · 10-11-2012, 17:54

Well well well, guess who's records I ran in 2009..... I knew I remembered that name..... I have his official military records that I requested from three years ago.

Christopher Calvin Grigsby

Seems another Special Forces soldier wanted to know if he was SF also.

I have this guys military records and he was a "Supply Sergeant".

He's been to every supply school on the planet according to him military records.

Was he a Special Forces soldier, NO.

**Eagle5US** · 10-11-2012, 18:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

Well well well, guess who's records I ran in 2009..... I knew I remembered that name..... I have his official military records that I requested from three years ago.

Christopher Calvin Grigsby

Seems another Special Forces soldier wanted to know if he was SF also.

I have this guys military records and he was a "Supply Sergeant".

He's been to every supply school on the planet according to him military records.

Was he a Special Forces soldier, NO.

That's pretty damned funny right there.

SF18C · 10-11-2012, 18:25

hmmm...looks like he left Ft Sill when I got here.

Also seems to be a job hopper too! Hasn't held a steady position for more than 2 years!

Snaquebite · 10-11-2012, 18:31

BAM...BOOM...BooooYAH.

Stras · 10-11-2012, 22:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by SF18C

hmmm...looks like he left Ft Sill when I got here.

Also seems to be a job hopper too! Hasn't held a steady position for more than 2 years!

Chris was at 10th Main between 97 and 2001, working in GSC or HHC as the PBO or OCIE.

From his job hopper status, "he appears to be running".

BKKMAN · 10-11-2012, 23:53

He's got quite the bio over at his new job...

http://redcheetah.com/about-us/our-team/chris-grigsby

You should give him a call to say "hey"...(512) 681-4589

1stindoor · 10-12-2012, 06:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

Well well well, guess who's records I ran in 2009..... I knew I remembered that name..... I have his official military records that I requested from three years ago.

Christopher Calvin Grigsby

I have this guys military records and he was a "Supply Sergeant".

Having just looked at the picture on the 'cheetah site...I think he was the same Grigsby that was our supply sergeant in JRTC back in mid '90s.

**Team Sergeant** · 10-12-2012, 08:14

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Originally Posted by 1stindoor

Having just looked at the picture on the 'cheetah site...I think he was the same Grigsby that was our supply sergeant in JRTC back in mid '90s.

You have an excellent memory because Supply Sergeant Christopher Calvin Grigsby was in fact the supply sergeant at JRTC from 93-97.

He started his "Supply Sergeant" career in Special Operations in 1988. And was also the supply sergeant "NCOIC" with 10th Group in Germany.

This is the second time in three years I've received comms that this indivudual is pretending to be a Special Forces soldier. If I find aomething in writing that he states he was an SF soldier then this thread will go into the Hall of Shame.

csquare · 10-12-2012, 08:19

He sometimes was the "OPFUND money" guy when C-1/10 deployed. He worked down the street in the S4. Small world......

Cool Breeze · 10-12-2012, 11:10

This asshat is one of the reasons legit guys sometimes have trouble finding work. I often think that civilians buyin to the bullshit and take that at face value. Do any companies really vet their employees any more?

Maybe we should fabricate a "war hero" and have the fabricated person apply for positions and political appointments based on the faux CV to root out the companies and groups that rally behind these douche bags.

orion5 · 10-12-2012, 12:58

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

This is the second time in three years I've received comms that this indivudual is pretending to be a Special Forces soldier. If I find aomething in writing that he states he was an SF soldier then this thread will go into the Hall of Shame.

TS,

On the Red Cheetah site it shows they have 5 executive officers, of which Chris Grigsby is one. Another is listed as Orville Gardner, Vice President Strategic Alignments.

Orville's bio says "I believe my experience as a career Army Special Forces Officer with 23 years of service to our country will bring unique perspectives to problem solving and innovation."

I wonder if Mr. Gardner was part of the executive team hiring Mr. Grigsby without properly vetting him? If there was anything submitted in writing (resume/letters/emails) by Chris Grigsby, I'm guessing Orville Gardner would have access to it.

o5

**Team Sergeant** · 10-12-2012, 13:49

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Originally Posted by orion5

TS,

On the Red Cheetah site it shows they have 5 executive officers, of which Chris Grigsby is one. Another is listed as Orville Gardner, Vice President Strategic Alignments.

Orville's bio says "I believe my experience as a career Army Special Forces Officer with 23 years of service to our country will bring unique perspectives to problem solving and innovation."

I wonder if Mr. Gardner was part of the executive team hiring Mr. Grigsby without properly vetting him? If there was anything submitted in writing (resume/letters/emails) by Chris Grigsby, I'm guessing Orville Gardner would have access to it.

o5

I'm sure Mr. Gardner knows that Chris Grigsby was a "supply sergeant"........

And if not, I'm also sure that Red Cheetah employees will soon be reading this thread and know that Chris Grigsby was a "Supply Sergeant", a non-combatant and not a Special Forces soldier.

irishj · 02-18-2013, 05:09

Hey guys, you may think you know Chris Grigsby - from this string, you obviously don't. He's no poser - has never stated that he was an SF Soldier - and wasn't. Confusion is easy - perhaps too easy but here's the deal - he has, and did, more for SOF than you probably know or have or had access to - every Group, the SMUs, the Joint and Combined guys, some folks that don't have ORG charts. I read his LOM when he retired - amazing actually - given to him from GEN Cleveland when CC was at 10th SFG. Chris worked for Cleveland as his 4, worked for Haas at JRTC-SOTD as the 4 and an OC, for Eldon Bargewell as his 1SG during Kosovo at the SOC, many others going way back (way back) - why not just ask them - they know he was a 92, the Army says he was a 92 - quite an interesting 92 Series actually with about a decade on the DASR as well - all in all about 18 of 23 in SOF supporting the boys from team level to the basement of the Pentagon at MOSO-ODC and every Theater AOR. The majority of the Component and Joint Leadership ten years ago and the most senior leadership now of "our world" would affirm his 92 series. Talk and surmise and disparage all you want, he's done pretty well since he retired and is accustomed to accepting the mud slinging as he continued to serve. Perhaps a little current fact would be good as well; Chris hired Orville at Red Cheetah when Orville retired last March. Here's a flash - why not pick up the phone and ask Chris was he a 92? I suspect he will affirm.

The BLUF here is that SOF Forces are more than those of us that went to the Q-Course. And although I would never back a person claiming to be a Team guy - Chris was there in a support role and as you know pre-911 that meant just as much then as it does now- Have folks with the "S" identifier not been killed in action while working with "Real SOF" dudes - look it up....you will find it is so.

As far as Chris Grigsby goes we was in SOF units....he supported those units and ergo is a member of the Brotherhood (by proxy). This is why he was allowed to join the SF Association as an associate member.

As far as LTC Gardner goes - The man was an SF Team Leader and served SOF most of his career. We all know officers have functional areas but the dude retired with "Crossed Arrow's) on his uniform and that should be enough for all of to call him a Brother in Arms.

Enough is enough - lets move on from this guy and go after the idiots wearing the SF Crest, Green Beret, Ranger Tab, and a Combat Diver on their uniforms and put them out there as the real posers - we have had guys in our own ranks wear the Ranger Tab, Dive Badge, HALO Badge and all sorts of medals they didn't earn - those are the true "posers".

SF_BHT · 02-18-2013, 06:09

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Originally Posted by irishj

Hey guys, you may think you know Chris Grigsby - from this string, you obviously don't. He's no poser - has never stated that he was an SF Soldier - and wasn't. Confusion is easy - perhaps too easy but here's the deal - he has, and did, more for SOF than you probably know or have or had access to - every Group, the SMUs, the Joint and Combined guys, some folks that don't have ORG charts. I read his LOM when he retired - amazing actually - given to him from GEN Cleveland when CC was at 10th SFG. Chris worked for Cleveland as his 4, worked for Haas at JRTC-SOTD as the 4 and an OC, for Eldon Bargewell as his 1SG during Kosovo at the SOC, many others going way back (way back) - why not just ask them - they know he was a 92, the Army says he was a 92 - quite an interesting 92 Series actually with about a decade on the DASR as well - all in all about 18 of 23 in SOF supporting the boys from team level to the basement of the Pentagon at MOSO-ODC and every Theater AOR. The majority of the Component and Joint Leadership ten years ago and the most senior leadership now of "our world" would affirm his 92 series. Talk and surmise and disparage all you want, he's done pretty well since he retired and is accustomed to accepting the mud slinging as he continued to serve. Perhaps a little current fact would be good as well; Chris hired Orville at Red Cheetah when Orville retired last March. Here's a flash - why not pick up the phone and ask Chris was he a 92? I suspect he will affirm.

The BLUF here is that SOF Forces are more than those of us that went to the Q-Course. And although I would never back a person claiming to be a Team guy - Chris was there in a support role and as you know pre-911 that meant just as much then as it does now- Have folks with the "S" identifier not been killed in action while working with "Real SOF" dudes - look it up....you will find it is so.

As far as Chris Grigsby goes we was in SOF units....he supported those units and ergo is a member of the Brotherhood (by proxy). This is why he was allowed to join the SF Association as an associate member.

As far as LTC Gardner goes - The man was an SF Team Leader and served SOF most of his career. We all know officers have functional areas but the dude retired with "Crossed Arrow's) on his uniform and that should be enough for all of to call him a Brother in Arms.

Enough is enough - lets move on from this guy and go after the idiots wearing the SF Crest, Green Beret, Ranger Tab, and a Combat Diver on their uniforms and put them out there as the real posers - we have had guys in our own ranks wear the Ranger Tab, Dive Badge, HALO Badge and all sorts of medals they didn't earn - those are the true "posers".

Irishj

This board has rules and you have not followed them. Fill in your profile and do an intro. This is not an option. Your first post Is supposed to be your intro.

I have no idea who you are and evidently a thread touched a nerve. I take it was about Chris Grigsby. A question was raised if he was SF. The point was debated by people from units he was in. This question was brought up due to some Bio post and some of those items have been taken down that brought up this question. People who served with him clarified that he was only a Supply guy not a SF soldier.

I take it by your rambling "grammar challenged " post that you took offense to our debate. If you comply with our rules, I am sure QP's here will be glad to discuss your issues in a professional manner.