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Old 03-23-2012, 06:24   #31
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That was DIFFERENT!

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That's hilarious, but it's also the lynch pin (NPI) of one of the primary drastic problems we face in this Country.
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Old 03-23-2012, 06:35   #32
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Was the "kid" ever detained?

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I know exactly what you mean. But a private Citizen can not detain another private Citizen for doing any of this. Sounds like he tried to do a Terry Stop. The guy who authored the Stand your Ground Law was talking last night. He said it clearly states "you can not approach someone, challenge someone creating a situation, then use the Stand Your Ground Law as a defense. He said the stand your ground law do's not even apply here.
Was the "kid" ever detained?

Is it against the law to walk up to somebody you don't know and ask what they are doing in the neighborhood? Damn, I've done the "Can I help you find where you're going" in my neighborhood just to get a closer look at somebody. Reason being we had a guy come home for lunch and find a stranger in his house - bad shot, he missed the perp and the cops never found him. Other than the kids at night checking cars around here the usual MO is to walk through the neighborhood during working hours, kick in somebody's front door and make off with what you can.

Is asking someone a question detaining them? If you try and ask a question and the person takes off wouldn't that be a little strange?

A lot of "facts" are being thrown around right now and the - if true - time line and locations are getting merged and folded in a lot of the stories out there right now.
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Old 03-23-2012, 08:26   #33
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Typical grandstanding move for media attention.

FWIW, that statement was 'news' from last week before the DOJ dusted off their Marshal's badges, strapped on their six-shooters, woke up Festus to watch the jail, and sashayed on out into the fray.

We'll be hearing about it all for a long time to come as it plays out in the MSM, the blogosphere, talk radio, and the justice system.

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Old 03-23-2012, 09:20   #34
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Obama is now pumping it up....

Obama: 'If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon'

"When I think about this boy, I think about my own kids," Obama said in Rose Garden remarks. "I think every parent in America should be able to understand why it is absolutely imperative that we investigate every aspect of this. And that everybody pull together."

"But my main message is to the parents of Trayvon Martin. You know, if I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon," Obama said. "All of us as Americans are going to take this with the seriousness it deserves."

"Obviously this is a tragedy. I can only imagine what these parents are going through," Obama said. "All of us have to do some soul searching to figure out how something like this has happened."

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2...on-118439.html
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Old 03-23-2012, 09:48   #35
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Obama is now pumping it up....

Obama: 'If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon'

"When I think about this boy, I think about my own kids," Obama said in Rose Garden remarks. "I think every parent in America should be able to understand why it is absolutely imperative that we investigate every aspect of this. And that everybody pull together."

"But my main message is to the parents of Trayvon Martin. You know, if I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon," Obama said. "All of us as Americans are going to take this with the seriousness it deserves."

"Obviously this is a tragedy. I can only imagine what these parents are going through," Obama said. "All of us have to do some soul searching to figure out how something like this has happened."

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2...on-118439.html
Yeah. Somebody needs to do some serious soul searching to determine honestly whether he'd even be commenting on the crime if the victim were Euro-American.
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Old 03-23-2012, 09:59   #36
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He did not comment to my knowledge, on the white boy set on fire by two black boys.

However, he did refrain from leaping to make an accusation of guilt.

Guess someone learned something from the teachable beer moment.
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Old 03-23-2012, 09:59   #37
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lololol Case Closed: Limbaugh, Gingrich and Santorum Guilty

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Old 03-23-2012, 10:51   #38
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The comment by Bled2003 makes ya wonder....good point..

Most "african-American" killings are done by other "african-Americans"....where's the rally for that????
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The comment by Bled2003 makes ya wonder....good point..

Most "african-American" killings are done by other "african-Americans"....where's the rally for that????
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/race.cfm
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Old 03-23-2012, 11:32   #40
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The last chart in the quoted link is quite interesting given the topic of conversation. Black on white crimes committed by strangers occur ~15% more frequently than white on black crimes.
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Old 03-23-2012, 13:18   #41
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Obama is now pumping it up....
Excuse me. You misspelled "pomping".
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Old 03-23-2012, 13:29   #42
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I think the key here is what happened after he (Zimmerman) called 911. If he was told to back off and in fact escalated the situation he is screwed.

If however the kid (Martin) approached him at his vehicle and then assaulted him then I would think he would be the aggressor. I hope the initial investigation by the PD documented any so called "grass stains", bruising or other indicators that Zimmerman was beaten or hit.

I am more concerned that this is going to become a Rodney King scenario in that the jury may not convict and then the Feds step in. Or people may be so afraid that they convict him anyway afraid of the violence that may come if they don't.
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Old 03-23-2012, 13:31   #43
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The last chart in the quoted link is quite interesting given the topic of conversation. Black on white crimes committed by strangers occur ~15% more frequently than white on black crimes.
Mr. Zimmerman is white?
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Old 03-23-2012, 13:48   #44
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The last chart in the quoted link is quite interesting given the topic of conversation. Black on white crimes committed by strangers occur ~15% more frequently than white on black crimes.
Charts with "poor definitions" are misleading. The latest data behind the charts you cite is from 2005. It shows

378 "Black on White" homicides
95 "White on Black" homicides

The 15% is an "illusion".
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Old 03-23-2012, 13:54   #45
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Mr. Zimmerman is white?
That depends of what "white" is. I've seen "blacks" whiter than Mr Z. A couple of famous female singers comes to mind right now.

For years libs have said there were "whites" and then there were people of color - Latino being one of them. So now we have a Hispanic.

Is a Hispanic Latino? I thought the left considered them one in the same.

But this seems not to be the case in this story. It plays better to have him white so we now have the new class of "White Hispanic". I wonder how dark you have to be to be some other color of Hispanic.
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