09-26-2004, 08:44
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Originally Posted by William Hazen
What saddens me is that my own party THE REPUBLICANS have to lie, spin, and rely on fear and personal attacks to win a presidential elecction and we have the worst President in the history of the United States as our candidate.
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I am getting here late, as I have been away, but this statement requires quite a bit of explanation. I will continue reading as I assume someone called you out on it . . . .
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09-26-2004, 08:53
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Too Liberal...How about Pat Bucannon instead. He and I are on the same page with my list.
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It makes sense that you like Pat Buchanan. I'm reading lots of angry, unsupported hyperbole.
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09-26-2004, 08:56
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GH and TR:
Well put! I agree.
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09-26-2004, 12:11
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Originally Posted by William Hazen
What saddens me is that my own party THE REPUBLICANS have to lie, spin, and rely on fear and personal attacks to win a presidential elecction and we have the worst President in the history of the United States as our candidate....
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So your are Republican…
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Although a Democrat Garrison Kellior about sums up my feelings
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I guess since your a "Republican", then it means there is bipartisan support for this whack job and his attempted deceptions, exaggerations, and distortions, Right??
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No sir. Independent Since 1988. I became disillusioned with main stream political parties
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UH OH… I thought you said that you were Republican… NOW you reveal that you are and have been an Independent since 1988???
It looks like you stubbed your toe with those flip-flops Ranger Hazen. Good luck with your candidate.
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09-26-2004, 12:25
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LOL this is too funney...Look you three....I do not know what you're getting out if this but I am used to it if you want to believe the lies you tell yourself go ahead... I wish to believe mine. LOL I stated my opinion based on the facts and none of those facts are in dispute. If you wish to come to different conclusions well that is your right and I respect that. History will be the final judge and you are fools if you think otherwise. My only point in posting on this section of the board is to let you know where I come from and to understand where you come from. If you are here to prove you're "right" and I am "wrong" then you had better reevaluate your reasons for engaging with me because all you're doing is talking to the hand. I came here to present my point of view and to understand yours and thats it.Otherwise.... You will not win and I for one am not stupid enough to believe that I am here to change anybody's point of view. As it is regardless of what you may think of my views I honor and respect yours and I don't need for you to like me . LOL
Again...if you disagree with my reasoning....Talk to the hand.
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09-26-2004, 12:31
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So your are Republican…
I guess since your a "Republican", then it means there is bipartisan support for this whack job and his attempted deceptions, exaggerations, and distortions, Right??
UH OH… I thought you said that you were Republican… NOW you reveal that you are and have been an Independent since 1988???
It looks like you stubbed your toe with those flip-flops Ranger Hazen. Good luck with your candidate.
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Better to Flip Flop then to lie. Flip Flopping implies reasoning at work. Lies impliy insecurity and malice.
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09-26-2004, 12:45
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And Sir Reaper for the record if you're threatening me for so called "Slander" I will make it easy for you. I will not post here in this section. God forbid that someone tell you that Bush Cheney and the whole lot of those conniving thieving bastards are full of shit.I mean hell we all need an echo chamber of yes men... it makes us feel good for we are righteous and they are wrongus!!!! We are at War!!!! On Terror, Drugs, Crime, Poverty, The New York Yankees and the Los Angeles Lakers and we all need to toe the line. LOL
God Bless America
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09-26-2004, 12:58
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"Kalifornia Lib" LOL Someone's insecurity and frustration is showing.
That's it I am done here....
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09-26-2004, 15:51
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Better to Flip Flop then to lie. Flip Flopping implies reasoning at work. Lies impliy insecurity and malice.
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Hmm. So if he says one thing one day, then another the next...he isn't lying about one?
The only thing he IS consistant with is flip flopping. Flip flopping indicates to me that he cannot decide on what side of the issue(s) he wants to be. I suppose that is because a certain percentage of those who might vote for him lean toward one side of the coin and a certain percentage on the other. Either way he goes he pisses off close to half of his "voting public." Oh what to do...what to do. Every day it is a different position for him.
If he can't take a firm position now on even any one issue, I don't see that he would do so after he might (GOD FORBID) be elected.
Just my .02
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09-26-2004, 18:43
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Better to Flip Flop then to lie. Flip Flopping implies reasoning at work. Lies impliy insecurity and malice.
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Isn't that exactly what you are doing regarding President Bush? Lying by selective omission and inclusion? Do you think my counter list regarding FDR is an accurate portrayal of his Presidency? You are right though, it does imply insecurity and malice.
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09-26-2004, 19:26
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"Kalifornia Lib" LOL Someone's insecurity and frustration is showing.
That's it I am done here....
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Not at all. Unless you are talking about yourself.  I changed it back for you.
Funny, I didn't know it was contagious...
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09-26-2004, 19:58
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Ah, the ol' 'seagull' posting technique--swoop in, squak with no real purpose, shit all over everything in sight then fly off.
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09-26-2004, 21:22
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Isn't that exactly what you are doing regarding President Bush? Lying by selective omission and inclusion? Do you think my counter list regarding FDR is an accurate portrayal of his Presidency? You are right though, it does imply insecurity and malice.
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Absolutely not...Your so called counterlist has no comparison to Dubya. The Axis were real Allies bound by real treaties in fact Hitler declared war on the U.S. a day or so after Japan attacked and FDR asked for a declaration of war. Saddam was a secular Muslim Dictator hated by Al Qaida and I very much doubt he was plotting with old Uncle Kim in North Korea or Iran. Dubya is so stupid he took away all of Al Qwacky's training bases by invading Afganistan only to hand them a bigger larger base of operations in Iraq...But hey I'll bet your theory has some weight with survivalists and those who dwell in "Left Behind" style Apocalypse Fantasies.
Hell even Bill O'Reilly interviewed by Mike Wallace on 60 minutes tonight thinks Iraq was a mistake and says he would never trust the Bush White House Again. Like I said GH you folks can blow smoke up your own asses all you want but this West Texas Emperor is buck naked and has been from the day he took office
I can hold up my hand forever if you guys still want to amuse yourselves
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09-26-2004, 21:23
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Not at all. Unless you are talking about yourself.  I changed it back for you.
Funny, I didn't know it was contagious...
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LOL good one Doc. How is retirement treating you.
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09-26-2004, 21:27
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LOL good one Doc. How is retirement treating you.
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Wrong Doc.
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
Still want to quit?
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