26 EU States Consider Joining New Euro Zone Treaty

[DevilSide]

I don't think I would have a problem if people who really needed assistance to get a little bit of help, but when half of a nation is just sitting around collecting instead of working that's when I think it's a problem. I'm not one to see anyone starve, but then again, people are taking advantage of kindness. Read an article recently about Denmark, how much of the students just keep going to college to collect benefits until they are hired to a good job, I wouldn't want to live my life just sitting around, not helping anyone else. Used to be, in the 1980's only around 10% were getting these kinds of benefits, how is it we now everyone is poor?

[afchic]

My 23 year old stepson lives in our basement. After "looking" for a job for over a year after he quit long haul trucking, he is now working at Petsmart on average 16 hours per week.

Last week he recieved a letter from corporate headquarters stating he is qualfied to recieve EIC this year when he files his tax return. He was excited to learn he will be getting "free" money. I quickly let him know he will not be filing for EIC this year or any year he.lives under our roof as he does not need it. If the IRS decides to file it for him it will be sent back. He still doesn't get it even after I explained that "free" money he thinks he deserves comes from hard working people like me and his dad. And since we already pay all his bills we have contributed enoug to his care and feeding this year and he is not going to profit any further from our largesse.

[tom kelly]

Originally Posted by afchic

My 23 year old stepson lives in our basement. After "looking" for a job for over a year after he quit long haul trucking, he is now working at Petsmart on average 16 hours per week.

Last week he recieved a letter from corporate headquarters stating he is qualfied to recieve EIC this year when he files his tax return. He was excited to learn he will be getting "free" money. I quickly let him know he will not be filing for EIC this year or any year he.lives under our roof as he does not need it. If the IRS decides to file it for him it will be sent back. He still doesn't get it even after I explained that "free" money he thinks he deserves comes from hard working people like me and his dad. And since we already pay all his bills we have contributed enoug to his care and feeding this year and he is not going to profit any further from our largesse.

Let him file his tax return & claim the EIC; Then YOU change the locks on YOUR house and let him make it on his own with the EIC. Regard's, TK

[JJ_BPK]

Originally Posted by tom kelly

Let him file his tax return & claim the EIC; Then YOU change the locks on YOUR house and let him make it on his own with the EIC. Regard's, TK

OR up his "rent"....

[afchic]

Originally Posted by tom kelly

Let him file his tax return & claim the EIC; Then YOU change the locks on YOUR house and let him make it on his own with the EIC. Regard's, TK

Believe me, if I had my way..... But he does have some special needs and I don't see him moving out anytime in the near future. I don't necessarily want him out of the house, just working more and being more productive.

[BOfH]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

I don't think the majority will object, as long as the gravy train keps rolling and the checks keep coming.

TR

STRATFOR's take on it:

".....In their long history, the Greeks have lost their sovereignty to invaders such as the Romans, the Ottomans and, most recently, the Nazis. The brutal German occupation still lives in Greek memories. The concept of national self-determination is thus not an abstract concept to the Greeks. Its loss plus austerity imposed by foreign powers would create a domestic crisis in which the Greek state would be seen as an economic and political enemy of Greek national interests along with the commissioner or some other mechanism. The political result could be explosive......"

http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/germa...an-debt-crisis

[GratefulCitizen]

Originally Posted by afchic

My 23 year old stepson lives in our basement. After "looking" for a job for over a year after he quit long haul trucking, he is now working at Petsmart on average 16 hours per week.

Last week he recieved a letter from corporate headquarters stating he is qualfied to recieve EIC this year when he files his tax return. He was excited to learn he will be getting "free" money. I quickly let him know he will not be filing for EIC this year or any year he.lives under our roof as he does not need it. If the IRS decides to file it for him it will be sent back. He still doesn't get it even after I explained that "free" money he thinks he deserves comes from hard working people like me and his dad. And since we already pay all his bills we have contributed enoug to his care and feeding this year and he is not going to profit any further from our largesse.

Natural consequences of influence vectors from a society produced by the public education system.
Development of survival skills and self-reliance is suppressed in the public schools, so they are rarely observed/learned among peers (and kids tend to reject what their parents teach for awhile -- another consequence of the public system).

I failed to pull him from the system soon enough, so my 19 year-old is learning the hard way.
He's been told that I might intervene in order to prevent him from starving or freezing to death; other than that, he's expected to figure it out.

Definitely won't make the same mistakes with my next 4 kids.
Private religious schooling up to age 10-12, then homeschooling.

Some thoughts on the public education system:
http://www.sntp.net/education/school_state_3.htm
http://www.wesjones.com/gatto1.htm
http://www.fff.org/freedom/0795n.asp

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by afchic

I don't necessarily want him out of the house, just working more and being more productive.

I saw someone's sigline awhile back that said, "A government that robs Peter to pay Paul, can always count on support from Paul."

I think you're trackin' straight ma'am, kudos.