Knife question to QP's....and all

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by mdpatterson

Should this be moved to the Comedy Zone? I meant to start a thread based on my skepticism, but wanted real world experience (QP's opinions for example) in case I was off base.

If I never get in a "Knife Fight", I will consider myself a winner .

BTW, TS........school is over! When do you want to tear up the desert?, I'll bring plenty of silenced pistols and maybe one knife. You can teach me senrty removal techniques.....as long as it doesn't violate OPSEC

Thanks again for the replies.

Mike

School is over and I'm ready to do some shooting! I'd rather we wait until the local temps drop below 125 degrees......

Or not, let me know when.

[Basenshukai]

Originally Posted by alelks

Other than Wolfgang does anyone know anyone or know anyone who knew anyone who actually snuck up on someone from behind and took them out with a knife. 20 years in the military and I never met such a person.

I met such a person recently. He teaches exclusively with one of the "contractor" business out there that is replete with our guys. He was not US military during his time in service, however. That's all I'll say on that.

However, from having trained with him recently (and that training included the use of very realistic "training aids"), I would not use a knife like that for "taking out a sentry", if such a thing were to occur. First of all, it is most likely that if one were to ever use it for combat, it would be because something else failed, so this becomes the next option; not because one is going to sneak up on someone. That being said, those little spines will get caught on something when you least want it to. We tried this during our training with a similar knife, and, sure enough, it got stuck inside the "training aid". As a survival/field knife, maybe the spines would be of use. But, that's another debate. Anyway, that's my opinion.

And, yes, it looks like a Yarborough ripoff.

[longrange1947]

Basen, could have told you that would happen, actually did earlier, already had the experience.

[CRUSADERSTEEL]

Originally Posted by Richard

Cigarettes were trading material - take my 3 cigs ration and I'll gladly take your John Wayne cookies, Kern's peanut butter and crackers, pound cake, peaches, pears, apple sauce, etc.

Richard

Youre thinking of your prison time Richard..

[CRUSADERSTEEL]

Originally Posted by mdpatterson

Should this be moved to the Comedy Zone? I meant to start a thread based on my skepticism, but wanted real world experience (QP's opinions for example) in case I was off base.

If I never get in a "Knife Fight", I will consider myself a winner .

BTW, TS........school is over! When do you want to tear up the desert?, I'll bring plenty of silenced pistols and maybe one knife. You can teach me senrty removal techniques.....as long as it doesn't violate OPSEC

Thanks again for the replies.

Mike

Mike.. Apparently you didn’t realize Quiet Professional refers to the fact that we are only professional when we are quiet... I mean you bring us a 750.00 knife (*which in itself would incite violence), it's happens to look like it is a Yarborough knock-off *, the guys says it's being "reviewed by Special Forces without substantiating *, and then you ask us our .02 and we are all guys that like to give you a whole dollar and tell you to keep the change!! So I am not exactly sure what you expected.. I think overall, given the subject matter everyone behaved..

[Dusty]

Besides, nobody who got a "Go" at the Apache Underwater Knifefighting Course is gonna violate OPSEC re: the Sentry Removal Techniques Class on an open forum.

[mdpatterson]

Originally Posted by CRUSADERSTEEL

Mike.. Apparently you didn’t realize Quiet Professional refers to the fact that we are only professional when we are quiet... I mean you bring us a 750.00 knife (*which in itself would incite violence), it's happens to look like it is a Yarborough knock-off *, the guys says it's being "reviewed by Special Forces without substantiating *, and then you ask us our .02 and we are all guys that like to give you a whole dollar and tell you to keep the change!! So I am not exactly sure what you expected.. I think overall, given the subject matter everyone behaved..

The responses were pretty much exactly what I expected. I knew my opinion, but thought I would share with the group to get expert opinions (And a few laughs). Sorry, but I just couldn't resist . Everyone has behaved perfect in my opinion. I have enjoyed all the responses and hope they continue . One thing though.... you can clearly see a picture of "The Duke" donning the beret framed in his personal Dojo (Right above his washer and dryer in his videos) so he must be legit right

***Side note, this maker also offers personal CQB lessons to anyone who buys a knife (Just in case anyone needed to brush up on sentry removal techniques with a true "Purpose built man fighting weapon" lol)***

TS, I can wait for the temperatures to go down a bit, or we could try an indoor range (Not affiliated with a certain little man at SGC).

Mike

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by Dusty

Besides, nobody who got a "Go" at the Apache Underwater Knifefighting Course is gonna violate OPSEC re: the Sentry Removal Techniques Class on an open forum.

No comment......

[tom kelly]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

My thoughts exactly..... I'll take the suppressed pistol everytime.....

"Those who live by the sword-GET SHOT- "By those who don't."

Regard's, Tom Kelly

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by mdpatterson

Have any QP's used/heard of this blade (Or talked to the maker?) It's from a local maker who seems like a decent guy. Prices are a crazy high, but some fairly unique designs (This model 'Jungle Fighter' is a bit too close to my 'Pacific'....and way out of my price range).

http://www.medfordknife.com/specials...fighter-s35vn#

I did ask Mr. Harsey's opinion first, but realized I was asking him to critique a fellow knife maker new to the industry (I apologize for that).

I'm only asking now as I know many QP's live in the PHX area, and might have some insight. It's advertised as (Copied from website):

"The Jungle Fighter was designed and adapted SF troops in the American military as a purpose built man fighting weapon."

Any input appreciated.

Mike

Back to the question at hand,

"The Jungle Fighter was designed and adapted SF troops in the American military as a purpose built man fighting weapon."

The above sentence makes no sense to me. Funny how the knife looks very familiar........ knowing quite a few "knife makers" I've never heard of this guy.

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by CRUSADERSTEEL

I am quite sure though that if you are a terrorist and are killed with a spork you are DQ'd from getting any virgins and you are just called a pussy and reincarnated as pig that is butchered and sent to Taco Bell and then eaten with a spork and the cycle continues....

Considering all the detritus from HQ this AM, thank you for re-raising the bar in terms of what launches coffee toward a monitor. Typical superb job, sir.

[x SF med]

Originally Posted by Badger52

Considering all the detritus from HQ this AM, thank you for re-raising the bar in terms of what launches coffee toward a monitor. Typical superb job, sir.

You did not just call Crusadersteel "sir", oh, man.... want to talk about high velocity detrius, that could cause it... ROFLMAO

[Richard]

I want my $750 back!

Richard

[Utah Bob]

Originally Posted by alelks

Nope! You do what you have to do but so many knives are promoted as being designed for or being good for sentry elimination that you'd think it's common place and done on a frequent basis. You could just give me an old Sykes Fairbairn. It has a nice sharp blade and tip and goes in quick and easy. It would cut like butter for this purpose compared to the knife above.

Attachment 19466


PS I did know a couple of people who used an E-tool to get the job done though.

I've always felt that if you have to pull out a knife to fight you've done SOMETHING wrong.

I used to carry a Fairbairn for sticking people, a Randall #14 for heavy field work and a demo knife.

I never stuck anybody but myself with the Fairbairn (opening mail).
The Randall was a good hacker and would open c-rats in case of no P38.
The demo knife probably got the most work.


What I'd like to see is a Fairbairn-Sykes style blade with saw teeth, a gut hook, hollow survival handle, laser pointer, magnifying glass and pliers made out of a special space age aluminum/platinum, kevlar alloy.

[Utah Bob]

"The Jungle Fighter was designed and adapted SF troops in the American military as a purpose built man fighting weapon."

"Adapted" but not adopted.