Lawmakers to introduce bill to legalize marijuana - Page 3

greenberetTFS · 06-23-2011, 12:31

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Tress · 06-23-2011, 13:29

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Originally posted by Pete:

Treat marijuana just like cigarettes. You want to smoke dope then make sure you don't work for a company that drug tests it's employees.

But, who wants to make a bet against the possibility that within a short period of time of legalizing marijuana there will be a push to prevent employer drug testing for marijuana since the smoking of it will, at that time, be a legal act.

There will be the inevitable comparisons to alcohol being consumed by employees on their own time and the fact that there is very little, if any, testing for alcohol at the workplace, so why should there testing for marijuana.

Marijuana users will cry that they are being discriminated against and we all know how Liberals feel about discrimination. The Libs will then take the dopers under their wing and pacify these poor, discriminated against, pot smokers.

Whose to say that it will not eventually become a civil rights issue. I think that twenty-five years ago most of us would have declared that gays and such would never be allowed to act openly within the ranks. Then came DADT and now the new policy is being hailed as a civil rights victory.

If this sounds a little far-fetched, maybe it is. But let's compare it to this philosophy: If we allow the Liberals to pass their gun control laws that make extended magazines and assault rifles illegal, they will then be full of themselves and try to take away pistols and concealed weapons permits throughout the country. After doing away with those they will then go after the hunter's everyday hunting rifle, shotgun and hunting bow (animals have rights too).

I do not thinking that I am going too far out on a limb in saying that most on this forum would agree that this could or would be the Liberals' idea of the natural progression of gun laws.

I know that I am mixing a few apples and oranges but there is a definite parallel between the two ideas. Obviously, the outcome will be determined by the present administration and legislature, but I trust neither and actually I have now scared the shit out myself thinking what things could be like if Obama gets re-elected. I hope that I am not being paranoid.

Just my $00.02.

Tress

sinjefe · 06-23-2011, 14:03

I can think of no circumstance where I would encourage ANY new law or regulation and only would welcome the rescinding of laws.

Paragrouper · 06-23-2011, 14:17

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"The bill, which is expected to be introduced on Thursday by Republican Representative Ron Paul and Democratic Representative Barney Frank"

WOW! politics really does make strange bedfellows

Richard · 06-23-2011, 15:09

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Originally Posted by Paragrouper

WOW! politics really does make strange bedfellows

Not if you consider that Ron has been Barney's 'closet' gynecologist for years.

Richard

djm0039 · 06-23-2011, 15:33

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Originally Posted by greenberetTFS

I have a friend in Austin,Texas who is a degreed drug councilor of 30+ years and he told me that marijuana is how most drug addicts start,how does he know,he was one himself..... As a former Navy corpsman in Vietnam serving with the Marines....... They started with marijuana,then more heavier stuff and that's why he's a strong advocate of NOT making it any easier to get people started on drugs..........

Big Teddy

Did marijuana get him started on all those other drugs or was it just that he made the conscience decision to do drugs? We always hear that marijuana is a gateway drug, but if it didn't exist would there really be that much less coke, heroin, and crack usage? My guess is that people would just "start" using with another drug.

I should mention that I have never used an illicit drug, so I'm not a proponent of marijuana use.

GratefulCitizen · 06-23-2011, 15:54

Even supposing that federal drug laws are beneficial, and their repeal would be detrimental, I am still in favor of their repeal.
The federal government cannot, nor shoud, be the answer to everything.

If they want to block the importation, fine.
Within the nation, let the states figure it out.

Police power at the federal level cannot to be trusted with excess jurisdiction.
The Constitution is there to protect us from our own best intentions.

"If the provisions of the constitution be not upheld when they pinch as well as when they comfort, they may as well be abandoned."
-George Sutherland

**Pete** · 06-23-2011, 16:02

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Originally Posted by Tress

But, who wants to make a bet against the possibility that within a short period of time of legalizing marijuana there will be a push to prevent employer drug testing for marijuana since the smoking of it will, at that time, be a legal act. .........

You forget. Tobacco is a legal product but yet there are private companys that have banned it's use by their employees. That is "to reduce" health care costs and it has been found to be legal.

Tress · 06-23-2011, 16:33

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Originally posted by Pete:

You forget. Tobacco is a legal product but yet there are private companys that have banned it's use by their employees. That is "to reduce" health care costs and it has been found to be legal.

True, but I still think that someone will try to prevent an employer from testing them.

Tress

Paslode · 06-23-2011, 17:06

People are going to smoke Pot whether it is legal or not. Legalization and FDA approved varieties won't contain additives like PCP.

But legalization it will have some short term gains, in no time Monsanto will own the seeds, Federal, State and Local governments will suck as many nickels and dimes out of it through taxes & fines as they can.....it's another casino or lotto scheme in the making. Some folks will want something with a little extra zing, or more organic (like fresh milk) that isn't on the FDA approved list.....and the cycle will continue.

JJ_BPK · 06-23-2011, 18:00

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Originally Posted by Richard

Not if you consider that Ron has been Barney's 'closet' gynecologist for years.

Richard

Or colorectal surgeon????

alelks · 06-23-2011, 19:52

Gateway this.

Gateway that.

People make decisions and those decisions have consequences.

Yea you can get hooked on drugs but you can also quit doing drugs. People just need to be responsible for their own actions.

Alcohol vs Marijuana: Between the two marijuana is by far less responsible for violent crimes.

Personally I say legalize it and control it as it's far less harmful than alcohol in my opinion.

This from a guy that has NEVER done any type of drugs.

mojaveman · 06-23-2011, 20:40

I just witnessed a large drug bust today at the Border Patrol checkpoint near Rainbow, CA. I knew it was a "find" because of the number of DEA agents that were present. They had a medium sized commercial vehicle pulled over and the driver surrounded at gunpoint. I don't use nor support the use of Marajuana but sometimes question the billions of dollars that we spend on trying to intercept it from coming across our borders. If I'm not mistaken the success rate of that operation is something like 5%.

Texas_Shooter · 06-23-2011, 23:35

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Originally Posted by alelks

Gateway this.

Alcohol vs Marijuana: Between the two marijuana is by far less responsible for violent crimes.

I have never heard of someone that killed a family high on marijuana, it is always ALCOHOL!

The worst you would probably hear about marijuana is local stoners raid corner store for munches.

06-23-2011, 23:51

My drug of choice is: Jameson, Red Breast, Bushmills, John Powers, Johnny Walker / Red, Black, Gold and Green, (Blue is not worth cost), and a few rare blends that friends pour from time to time. Beer comes in two categories; Good and Better.

I've also enjoy good cigars, but have limited myself to not over do it, and never like cigarettes.

Of course, my real weakness is chocolate and keylime pie.