10-13-2010, 14:08
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True but you still pay for all the channels on that tier. Which is why cable companies like to keep bumping the popular channels up to the next tier.
Remember when HBO was the next step up from basic cable? Now HBO & Showtime are up on tier four.
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QP Pete--
If I didn't already know from reading your user bio, I'd hazard a guess that you are a Time Warner Cable customer.  (Do they charge you to have access to the interactive program guide like TWC NYC does?)
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10-13-2010, 14:20
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Originally Posted by Sigaba
QP Pete--
If I didn't already know from reading your user bio, I'd hazard a guess that you were a Time Warner Cable customer.  (Do they charge you to have access to the interactive program guide like TWC NYC does?)
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Man, I'm still POed at T/W from when they tried to hijack me for a monthly box fee to rent the box so I could see extra chanels.
No box for me.
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10-13-2010, 16:04
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Originally Posted by Pete
What show has Good Christian or Jewish kids out fighting evil?
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Don’t really have a dog in this fight, but I am something of a comic book geek. As far as good Christian/Jewish boys and girls out fighting crime go:
Superman – Methodist
Batman – Catholic/Episcopalian (lapsed)
Iron Man – Atheist / Agnostic
Spider Man – Protestant
Captain America – Protestant
Night Crawler – Catholic
Daredevil – Catholic
The Thing – Jewish
Gambit – Catholic
All of these characters have referenced their religions (at least briefly) in their comics. I think no one really notices or makes a big deal out of it because we are a Judeo-Christian nation. It would only be unusual / worth noting if they were not Judeo-Christian. YMMV.
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10-13-2010, 16:40
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Battlestar Galactica (new and old, but particularly the new) had some fairly obvious Christian overtones, Mono vs. Polytheistic (Greek/Roman gods vs. the 1 True God of the Cylons). Most of the religious debates on the show - especially the show's ending was in the vein of other Christian themed movies or stories (Lion, Witch and Wardrobe/LOTR). The old was sort of a play on certain old testiment stories.
All things considered, I watched the cartoon's 7 minute intro on the site posted, doesn't look that bad, similar to the above mentioned shows. Themed but not overt, influenced but not obvious. Either way, it is sort of ironic, the "bad guy" talking about imposing his beliefs on the week and feeble minded. Sounds like the dogma of Islam to me. But that's another show and MHOO, YMMV...
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10-13-2010, 17:22
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You've named thier religions
[QUOTE=JustinW20;352368]................All of these characters have referenced their religions (at least briefly) in their comics. ..............QUOTE]
....................referenced thier religions (at least briefly) in their comics.
Sigh. "referenced"
OK just wait until the kids want a Betty Burka costume for Halloween.
We'll see how it turns out.
Along similar decay lines. Just a few days ago an NC judge ruled a nose ring was OK because the young girl was a member of the church of body modification - and NY schools are going to give Muslims their Ramadan day off.
After all they have Christian and Jewish Holidays. Oh, wait, Oh, wait. Christmas Vacation is now the Winter Holiday and Easter is Spring Break because of that pesky little wall between church and state.
So if the Ramadan Holiday will not be "religious" what will they call it? The "floating through the year holiday"? Or will the schools call it what it is? A religious holiday for Islam?
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10-13-2010, 17:40
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"Muslim Appreciation Day"????
Though "Floating Holiday" does have a kind of educational ring to it!!!!
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10-13-2010, 17:49
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A muslim cartoon I would like to see is "Mohammed Meets Itchy and Scratchy".
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10-13-2010, 21:06
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How will the 99 incorporate the “seven sleepers of Ephesus,” aka the “people of the cave,” into the series - that’s what I wanna know….
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10-13-2010, 21:26
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[QUOTE=Pete;352384]
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Originally Posted by JustinW20
................All of these characters have referenced their religions (at least briefly) in their comics. ..............QUOTE]
....................referenced thier religions (at least briefly) in their comics.
Sigh. "referenced"
OK just wait until the kids want a Betty Burka costume for Halloween.
We'll see how it turns out.
Along similar decay lines. Just a few days ago an NC judge ruled a nose ring was OK because the young girl was a member of the church of body modification - and NY schools are going to give Muslims their Ramadan day off.
After all they have Christian and Jewish Holidays. Oh, wait, Oh, wait. Christmas Vacation is now the Winter Holiday and Easter is Spring Break because of that pesky little wall between church and state.
So if the Ramadan Holiday will not be "religious" what will they call it? The "floating through the year holiday"? Or will the schools call it what it is? A religious holiday for Islam?
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Pete, thanks for that. I was sitting around wondering what I was going to wear for halloween! You have a great idea!
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10-13-2010, 21:35
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NC judge ruled a nose ring was OK because the young girl was a member of the church of body modification -
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Okay, that's it. EVERYBODY out of the pool.
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10-13-2010, 23:55
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My Preview summary…
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiYU3DZCepQ
^ The story appears to start with the Abbasid Caliphate and focuses heavily on mystical powers of meteorites.
Each of the 99 appear to posses and gain powers from their meteorite Noor Stone, similar to the Black Stone of Mecca which gives off sin cleansing power to those who kiss it
KissingTheBlackStone.jpg
It doesn't go into detail which of the 99 gets to carry the “Black Stone”
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10-14-2010, 10:13
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiYU3DZCepQ
^ The story appears to start with the Abbasid Caliphate and focuses heavily on mystical powers of meteorites.
Each of the 99 appear to posses and gain powers from their meteorite Noor Stone, similar to the Black Stone of Mecca which gives off sin cleansing power to those who kiss it
Attachment 16768
It doesn't go into detail which of the 99 gets to carry the “Black Stone” 
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It is not meteorites in the story. Go to the web site and read the comic and the character bios. The story is when Baghdad was being sacked in ancient times, all of the libraries and books were being destroyed. The librarians made "King's Water" and soaked several gems in it. This was supposed to allow the gems to absorb all of the knowledge and wisdom in the books. After the city and library were destroyed, the librarians took the stones away and built a huge repository. One of the "Guardians" tried to absorb all of the knowledge of the stones, turning himself into pure matter and destroying the repository. The other "Guardians" took the stones and hid them all over the world. The rest of the story is the stones are found, infusing the kids with special powers. The "Guardian" who was turned to matter is reincarnated as the "bad guy". Supposedly, some of the stones bearers are aligned with him and some are aligned with the "good guys".
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10-14-2010, 17:02
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It is not meteorites in the story.
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If I weren’t color blind I would have used the pink font  the parallel that came to mind regarding the 99 stones and their mystical powers reminded me of the meteorite in the Ka'ba for some reason
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10-14-2010, 18:06
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FWIW, It has been a while since my days working for a software R&D lab in the digital cable industry and I am constrained by a dozen or so NDAs. I can say that since the 1990s, questions about who is showing what and when are they showing it are increasingly irrelevant.
In the age of "on demand," what matters most is the question "Who is watching?". This is to say it is all about the ratings.
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My family was part of a pilot program back in the 80s.
The cable box had a modem and would make its calls about 0200 to upload what we had watched.
We also had a card which gave discounts while shopping (related to the cable box agreement).
The pilot program was to see the effectiveness of advertising/viewing patterns/etc.
In this day and age, collecting such data is trivial and multi-sourced (credit cards, discount cards, internet surfing, dvd rentals, television viewing patterns).
Many of the advertisments people now receive in the mail, email, pop-ups, etc., are specifically targeted to the individual.
They know all of the psychological buttons to push.
Ian Ayres wrote a pretty good book called Super Crunchers which addresses the power of such data collection.
Some other easy reads which address how we can all be easily manipulated for others' profit:
- Blink by Malcolm Gladwell
- Predictably Irrational by Dan Ariely
- Influence by Robert B. Cialdini
I don't worry too much about my kids exposure to mass media.
-Don't have cable/sattelite.
-Don't have internet at home.
-Don't have sattelite radio.
-There is no TV reception in this area of the nation.
-There are only a few radio stations that can get a signal into here.
-Those few stations either suck and/or broadcasts are in Navajo.
(actually heard rap music in Navajo on one of the stations...)
-Kids don't go to public school.
At the level of the individual family, problems with the effects of media upon children are voluntarily accepted.
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10-16-2010, 01:52
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If I weren’t color blind I would have used the pink font  the parallel that came to mind regarding the 99 stones and their mystical powers reminded me of the meteorite in the Ka'ba for some reason 
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Ok, you might need to explain that one to me. I have no idea what the Ka'ba is.
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