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Old 09-11-2010, 12:07   #31
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Agreed. As a long time diver and eventually a team sergeant on a dive team I used to tell others that it's just one more skill to be put into the rucksack. Failure does not mean you are any less of an asset as a commo guy, medic, engineer, etc...it just means water isn't your preferred environment.

I mean if it was easy...they'd call it HALO
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Hey jumping out at 25,000 is hard work......
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Old 09-15-2010, 11:35   #32
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lol,
I wonder if it's just going to show past footage from previous discovery shows. Nontheless, I'll watch it when I come back since I'll be arching hard
Hey I saw a guy that we know on the Diver episode.
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Old 09-15-2010, 12:54   #33
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LOL,
Hey jumping out at 25,000 is hard work......
pssst...between me and you...and don't tell the other divers...I always wanted to go to HALO school. Just makes a youngin' that much more marketable.
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Old 09-15-2010, 12:59   #34
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My wife and I have been watching it, really good show. Funny, she said,"I thought the military was yelling and screaming at you all the time! These guys are almost nice to them!"
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Old 09-15-2010, 13:05   #35
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My wife and I have been watching it, really good show. Funny, she said,"I thought the military was yelling and screaming at you all the time! These guys are almost nice to them!"
Hell, the Diver course looked hard enough without them getting yelled at. The stress test looked so crazy
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Hell, the Diver course looked hard enough without them getting yelled at. The stress test looked so crazy
Amen to that. One of those everytime they went underwater, I found myself holding my breath! I think tonights episode is EOD.
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I mean if it was easy...they'd call it HALO
All the stress at HALO school is self-induced. I didn't have to yell...they just stared out the back of the aircraft and imploded all on their own.

Our job was to make sure that silver handle came out at the correct altitude, regardless of who did the pullin'
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Old 09-15-2010, 21:31   #38
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Our job was to make sure that silver handle came out at the correct altitude, regardless of who did the pullin'
...hell, all I did most of the time was "watch" everyone else work.
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Old 09-16-2010, 04:14   #39
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...hell, all I did most of the time was "watch" everyone else work.

But you were the "Bestest" watcher-looker
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Reminds me of an old joke a HALO guy once told me....

Most of my jumps are night/water...


Because my eyes are closed and I'm pi$$ing myself.
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Old 09-16-2010, 08:29   #41
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Watched the episode last night about the Navy EOD school. Boy those guys sure run some realistic training missions.
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I missed that one. I'll have to look it up.
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I missed that one. I'll have to look it up.
I was teaching a "pre-scuba" class last night (teaching a couple to swim well enough to complete the "watermanship assesssment") and tuned in late. I only caught the end when they went into "classified mode" of their last excercise.

The only part that bothered me was when the two guys they left outside to pull security (as the rest of the team went into the bunker) fournd an "IRL" and started to disarm it. I wondered who was pulling security then...
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The last part was hard to watch. One item was their tactical movement on foot from point A to point B. They basically walked down the middle of a road with zero left/right security. I didn't see any point element to their formation. It looked more like a Sunday stroll. I do not believe there was a Op or patrol order created or issued. More of a "let's go boys."

They also had a mission of intercepting a van which contained pow's and explosives. They parked their four Humvee's off the road about 2 meters and in plain sight. They parked them all right next to one another. No cover, no tactical formation. Looked like they pulled into a movie parking lot to catch the matinee feature. They then watched the van roll by within 2 meters of their position, apparently identified it and all four Humvee took off after it. One went in front, one to the side and two behind. Kind of like watching a LEO arrest someone on Cops. I guess they have never heard of a VBIED. One guy jumps out and there's a bad guy around four feet from him with a AK 47 pointed at him. Our hero just continued to moved towards and secure the bad guy as if the idea of getting shot wasn't an option. I'm not sure as to the point of this exercise.

Afterward, they were raving about their performance. "Everyone came home alive!" is how they described it.
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Old 09-16-2010, 12:46   #45
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Just what I saw

I recently had the pleasure of working with some stellar EOD folks (Army type) during my deployment. My platoon would often serve as security for these folks. We had a clear understanding of one another's role. As far as overall security, we infantry knuckle-draggers were in charge. When it came to the device or UXO along the road, EOD was in charge. When the situation dictated we made it clear that they are shooters first and tactically we included them in rehearsals and briefs prior to patrols and missions. This latest “Surviving the cut” was not as "flashy" as some of the ones past, but Lord knows when there is an 8-inch plate sitting in a canal I wouldn't want anyone else outside the wire with me... I'm sure most of us can agree on that.
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