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Old 07-15-2010, 00:18   #31
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However there are several other majority views in this same poll which are frankly encouraging IMHO. By my read the majority of those polled in this survey;

1) Felt it was possible to find common ground with the West.

2) Had very positive views of the merits of democracy.

3) Felt AQ attacks were violating the principles of Islam.

4) Did not support suicide attacks.

5) Did not approve of attacks on US civilians.

6) Felt 9/11 was a negative for the Islamic world.

So, how should we interpret this poll?
All the more reason for devastating critique IMO - educate the masses - we are woefully lagging in this campaign - give no quarter. Sustained scrutiny undercutting the claims of Islam and exposing the limits of Islams wisdom, IMO, will expose the tyrannical ideology rational people are repulsed by - always (their response) taking into account the doctrine of Taqiyya and Kitman. The words of Houari Boumedične as well as Muammar Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi should always be considered IMHO: "We will conquer your country with the bellies of our women"

# 6 appears to be a trick question though - think "Stealth Jihad" - demographics, the consequences of appeasement, and why they may be opposed to violent tactics...


"Islamist thinkers began to invest Islam’s growing presence in the West with divine significance. Among other things, some began to interpret the Muslim migration to Europe (and to a lesser, but still significant extent, to North America) as a modern hijra, or migration, that was ordained by Allah in order “to plant Islam in this part of the world.”[10] What’s more, many of the scholar-activists involved with these institutions realized that Europe’s free and open democracies provided a more fertile environment for dawa than their former homelands. European law guarantees a greater degree of freedom of conscience, expression and religion for Islamists than many Muslim states, and these freedoms quickly became understood as preconditions for successful dawa work.[11]"

Sources > http://www.currenttrends.org/researc...al-in-the-west

> http://www.currenttrends.org/docLib/...ROTHERHOOD.pdf

> http://www.currenttrends.org/researc....17/ctrend.asp

> http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...0245843&hl=en#

> http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=oc7Pqj...eature=related
(1:35-2:20) (4:35-5:20) (5:40-6:00) (9:40-9:50)
> http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=wrgyMZRdmwk
(1:15-1:55) (6:24-6:56) (7:09-7:30) (7:50-8:40)
> http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=NBSvExX_Nhc
(4:50-5:00) (6:55-7:10) (7:50-9:50)
> http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=HXz0B_j9eHI
(1:40-2:30) (2:40-3:10)
> http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=rdpCOaJuBx4
(2:22-2:40) (2:55-3:30 / ABROGATION)


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In support of your argument, certain views of those polled supporting violence against US troops abroad, the merits of sharia law, and opinions on UBL are troublesome and discouraging. This is not good.
Edited to add: What's troublesome is that less than 10% didn't want Sharia...

Know Islam - No Sharia.

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Old 07-15-2010, 12:33   #32
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The president at odds with Petraeus over identifying enemy as "Islamic"
IMO, Mr. Spencer has the cart before the horse. Regardless of the comparative merits of the administration's and GEN Petraeus's assessment, the president is the commander in chief.

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Old 07-15-2010, 13:00   #33
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The headline is from an article in the Washington Times, written by Rowan Scarborough.
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The headline is from an article in the Washington Times, written by Rowan Scarborough.
With respect, Mr. Scarborough's piece is titled "[President of the United States] at odds with Petraeus doctrine on 'Islam'" whereas Mr. Spencer titled his blog post as "[The president is] at odds with Petraeus over identifying the enemy as "Islamic"."
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Thursday, 29 July 2010 Pew Survey:

Pakistanis overwhelmingly favor killing apostates
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