Trijicon puts Bible passages on it's sites

BBC article

US firm to remove Biblical references on gunsights


Soldiers are concerned the markings could put them at risk if captured
A US military contractor has said it will stop engraving Biblical references on rifles used by the US army.

The markings, in the form of coded references, have been appearing on products made by the US firm Trijicon, based in Michigan, for decades.

But on Thursday, US military chief Gen David Petraeus, said the practice of scripture references was "disturbing" and "a serious concern". With al due respect Sir, dont you have better things to do like fighting a war?


The firm also sells the gunsights to Australia, New Zealand and the UK.

The inscriptions - which include "2COR4:6" and "JN8:12", relating to verses in the books of II Corinthians and John - appear in raised lettering at the end of the stock number.

The company pledged to remove the inscription reference on all products destined for the US military yet to be shipped and ensure all future procurements from the department of defence are produced without scripture references.


Religious sensitivities

It also said it would provide 100 modification kits to forces in the field to remove the references. "Trijicon has proudly served the US military for more than two decades, and our decision to offer to voluntarily remove these references is both prudent and appropriate," the firm, founded by a devout Christian, said in a statement released on Friday.
oh great, at more cost to the taxpayers. Just leave the sights alone have shipped and let the soldiers suck it up and deal with it. Some might actualy want it to remain. I can see it now, the weapons guys with thier dremels running around grinding off some letters.. how dumb.

The references - first reported on by ABC News - had raised concerns that they broke a US rules barring troops proselytising in the predominantly Muslim countries of Afghanistan and Iraq, where they are widely used by both the US and British military. Ah well, there ya go, PC MSM, gotta find something to bitch and moan about.

Gen Petraeus, head of the US Central Command, said: "Cultural and religious sensitivities are important considerations in the conduct of military operations."
I will give you that one Sir, but why not just say, oops, we didnt' know it was there. No more will be shipped with it on it and life will go on.
kindal like me not telling the kids to NOT write on each other with magic marker and having two kids covered in drawings. Hey that is not cool, don't do it again! and get on with life.


In a letter sent to the US president on Thursday, the head of the Interfaith Alliance said the gunsights "clearly violate" the rule.
WTF are they? the pc police?

"Images of American soldiers as Christian crusaders come to mind when they are carrying weaponry bearing such verses," Welton Gaddy said.

Earlier in the week, the Church of England told the UK's Guardian newspaper: "People of all faiths and none are being killed and injured in these *conflicts, on all sides, and any suggestion that this is being done in the name of the Bible would be deeply worrying to many *Christians."
And whom did you poll for that comment Sir? Dont' think many in my world would agree with you.


On Thursday, New Zealand's defence ministry said it was in talks with Trijicon about the best way to remove the markings without damaging the sights.

Australia too is reportedly assessing how best to respond

Marcus Aurelius wrote, "there are but two rules, to keep an untroubled spirit and to look things in the face and know them for what they are."

Honestly who cares what a Christian owned company that makes really good sights puts on them does as long as they do the job they were intended on doing?
I bet no one would be complaining if the playmate of the year were stamped on the gunsights right?

Apologies if I offend. But I think that the MSM is making to much of this. It could be argued that the letters are the company's trademark .. now if they had copyrighted it on thier sights, it might be a trademark violation.. no idea but any agruement is worth a shot.

[ApacheIP]

Originally Posted by Ret10Echo

Wonder if some entrepreneur will design and produce a "stick on" Bible verse that looks like the Trijicon reference and sell it as an appliqué.....

Hmmmmmm

What is your intellectual property fee?

The thus far unmentioned irony of it all is that if Trijicon truly "practiced what they preach" they'd tell the press and the gubmint to pound sand. They'd continue tooling the sights the way they always have and tell the customers to remove it themselves if they don't like it or buy them from someone else.

But...the fat $$$$$$$$$ contract won over principles. Piss on Trijicon for folding.

[Ret10Echo]

Originally Posted by ApacheIP

What is your intellectual property fee?

Go for it...

Call it Optiverse..........

Originally Posted by rltipton

The thus far unmentioned irony of it all is that if Trijicon truly "practiced what they preach" they'd tell the press and the gubmint to pound sand. They'd continue tooling the sights the way they always have and tell the customers to remove it themselves if they don't like it or buy them from someone else.

But...the fat $$$$$$$$$ contract won over principles. Piss on Trijicon for folding.

Yeah, but then they would lose the $$ they will make by selling "removal" kits.

[dadof18x'er]

Originally Posted by armymom1228

Yeah, but then they would lose the $$ they will make by selling "removal" kits.

any soldier who is also a spiritual warrior will have the Word deep in his heart safe from any man (or demon's) reach, nobody can remove God's Word..just ask Mao, Nero, Hitler, Stalin and so on.

[Box]

I carried an ACOG on the top of my rifle during the course of six deployments in support of the global war on terrorism (now referred to as OCO as we pander to those poor muslim sensibilities by not calling it a war)...

Kept my shot groups tight. Never let me down. Never once did my Jesus gun cause me to twitch with the uncontrollable urge to proselytize my beliefs to muslims that were quite comfortable at proselytizing their beliefs to me...

It does my heart good to know I was given the opportunity to shoot a "Jesus gun" at those radical, hateful nut jobs...


meh

[Richard]

"...spiritual warrior..." a clearly misunderstood concept.

And so it goes...

Richard's jaded $.02

[dadof18x'er]

Originally Posted by Richard

"...spiritual warrior..." a clearly misunderstood concept.

And so it goes...

Richard's jaded $.02

I agree, here's a few of the best concepts...

[PedOncoDoc]

If the PC police want to get their panties in a bunch over proselytizing, why don't we - or even better yet, the UN - send said PC police and a crapload of lawyers into the desert to round up and convict the insurgents for proselytizing during the war? I see this as a potential win-win situation, no offense to present company.

[Marina]

We were directed to and pulled the ACOGs from inventory last week. Certified up the chain - no Jesus guns.

[greenberetTFS]

Originally Posted by greenberetTFS

I go along with TS and LG1947,especially since it pisses off the muslims.....

Big Teddy

I don't get it,it really "upsets the muslims"(pisses them off),so lets not upset the muslims! WTF !!!!!

Big Teddy

[Papa Zero Three]

I hope none of the people bitching about this get the chance to look through one of these optics. Next thing you know they'll be claiming its still a jesus gun because the lines inside it form a cross.

Originally Posted by greenberetTFS

I don't get it,it really "upsets the muslims"(pisses them off),so lets not upset the muslims! WTF !!!!!

Big Teddy

It's not the Muslim's who are upset, it's the Liberals who are upset thinking we might be upsetting someone else.

I'm offended by those easily offended.

If we can not have religious symbols on US property, I guess we better take the 'Cross' and 'Star of David' out of Arlington, or the word Catholic off of Dog Tags.

Soldiers better not have any tattoos that might offend a Liberal.

[Richard]

The moment we want to believe something, we suddenly see all the arguments for it, and become blind to the arguments against it. It is not disbelief that is dangerous to our society; it is belief.
- George Bernard Shaw

And so it goes...

Richard's $.02