08-21-2009, 05:26
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"nobody carried Weapons when the Presidents were White"
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I hate to put a historical dampener on that bit of inflammatory falsehood - but - tell that to Jackson, Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, Truman, JFK, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Clinton, and GWB - who were all either shot at or shot.
And then there's that lengthy period in American history when many of the people in nearly any crowd - including any in which the POTUS appeared - were openly armed.
And so it goes...
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08-21-2009, 06:36
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I hate to put a historical dampener on that bit of inflammatory falsehood - but - tell that to Jackson, Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, Truman, JFK, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Clinton, and GWB - who were all either shot at or shot.
And then there's that lengthy period in American history when many of the people in nearly any crowd - including any in which the POTUS appeared - were openly armed.
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If congenital or purposeful ignorance were a reporter disqualification, most would have to leave their jobs. OTOH that might be a good thing.
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08-21-2009, 11:29
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CNN
http://icarizona.blogspot.com/2009/0...t-outside.html
Seems it was a demonstration and statement of rights planned and calculated. There was an article in the AZ Rep that explained this as well.
The right or wrong of the method is debatable, such debate pretty much the point of the demonstration I'd guess. It reminds me of the use of the Navy to "show the flag" in ports and waters around the world. It presses the rights to do so freely and lawfully.
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08-21-2009, 17:41
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I hate to put a historical dampener on that bit of inflammatory falsehood - but - tell that to Jackson, Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, Truman, JFK, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Clinton, and GWB - who were all either shot at or shot.
And then there's that lengthy period in American history when many of the people in nearly any crowd - including any in which the POTUS appeared - were openly armed.
And so it goes...
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Rich, I knew you would find fault.....
I was just talking about how MSNBC doctored the video and openly discussed the incident in order to make it look like a bunch of White dudes were looking to shoot a President just because he was Black.
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08-21-2009, 19:32
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I was just talking about how MSNBC doctored the video and openly discussed the incident in order to make it look like a bunch of White dudes were looking to shoot a President just because he was Black.
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I know that - my post was directed at the tendency of the MSM to be so short-sighted and at those whose view of History is so limited they'll buy into almost anything that is either shown on TV, talked about on radio, or posted on the WWW.
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08-24-2009, 18:34
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYKQJ4-N7LI
I thought this was a good example of blatant left-wing MSM deception by MSNBC.
They zoom in on the AR-15 the black gentleman brought - so to not show his race - and then had a black guest talk about the dangers of right-wing hate groups' racism.
It's actually worse than I made it out to me: they showed a white guys face (with a black sling over his shoulder) right after the edited AR-15 shot, and the pretty faced journalistic powerhouse of a co-host said "you have white people showing up with guns".
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08-24-2009, 19:51
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CNN
http://icarizona.blogspot.com/2009/0...t-outside.html
Seems it was a demonstration and statement of rights planned and calculated. There was an article in the AZ Rep that explained this as well.
The right or wrong of the method is debatable, such debate pretty much the point of the demonstration I'd guess. It reminds me of the use of the Navy to "show the flag" in ports and waters around the world. It presses the rights to do so freely and lawfully.
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The AZ "republic" is a left wing "tool" and not suitable to use as a litter box liner. I know I live here.
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08-25-2009, 02:54
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The AZ "republic" is a left wing "tool"
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It is that. But aside all the garbage in the article brought by the writer, the man that carried the rifle did explain the purpose of the demonstration. It was also explained the police were informed and coordinated with prior to the day of the "Town Hall".
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08-25-2009, 09:26
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYKQJ4-N7LI
I thought this was a good example of blatant left-wing MSM deception by MSNBC.
They zoom in on the AR-15 the black gentleman brought - so to not show his race - and then had a black guest talk about the dangers of right-wing hate groups' racism.
It's actually worse than I made it out to me: they showed a white guys face (with a black sling over his shoulder) right after the edited AR-15 shot, and the pretty faced journalistic powerhouse of a co-host said "you have white people showing up with guns".
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Yup, now had that guy been white the left wing socialist democrats would have had his mug slated as the poster child for the far right wing "hate" groups.
I think the left-wing wet themselves when they saw this guy toting a gun open carry style.
We all know there's no black guys on the far right side......
IMO This guys "statement" was brilliant. The only thing that could have been better is if some rainbow wearing females were also sporting weapons.
I doubt the Teleprompter Reader of the United States will be returning anytime soon (to AZ).
Times are a changing.
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08-25-2009, 11:30
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I know that - my post was directed at the tendency of the MSM to be so short-sighted and at those whose view of History is so limited they'll buy into almost anything that is either shown on TV, talked about on radio, or posted on the WWW.
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You forgot to mention those who see the headlines in the supermarket tabloids and believe it to be gospel truth. I see that sort would believe anything, no matter if proven untrue, from the Media in general.
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