07-12-2009, 08:11
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07-12-2009, 09:17
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"Early Out"
I wonder what his story will be on his "early out"?
Kinda' interesting he served less than two years on what should have been at least a 3 year enlistment.
Maybe in his mind he's "special" so that makes him "special forces". Little s & f on purpose.
Being a student in the Q Course does not equate to "served in Special Forces".
That statement alone could even PO the hard working non-SF Cooks, Riggers, Drivers, MI, Commo Guys, etc working hard in real assignments in Special Forces units.
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07-12-2009, 09:20
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Let the word-waffling begin - this guy never answered my simple request asking where and when he 'served with SF' - I seriously doubt he'll answer anyone else's, either - at least truthfully.
Someone needs to see what his discharge certificate says - General Under Honorable Conditions or Other Than Honorable Conditions would speak volumes.
Richard's $.02
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07-12-2009, 09:46
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This is my favorite Derrell Gardner quote:
"Mylast duty station was at the J.F.K Center at Ft. Bragg, N.C."
http://derrellgardner.com/about.html
Kind of makes you think Derrell Gardner had more than one Special Forces assignemnt....
Whom ever wrote Derrell Gardner's bio did so with extreme "intent".
Derrell Gardner, it was not your last duty assignment, it was your only duty assignment while you were waiting to be "terminated" from active duty.
Show us your DD-214 and we'll clear this whole mess up for you.
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07-12-2009, 10:16
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Gardner or his lawyer?
So who will be first to register on PS.com?
Gardner with an explaination or his lawyer with threats?
Mr Gardner could just sign the Standard Form 180 for the newspaper and have his records released to them. Just like John - I served in VN - K. did.
Oh, wait - John just said he would - he never did sign the 180 that would explain his missing years.
Maybe if either signs on they can be jumped to the front of the posting line.
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07-12-2009, 10:48
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
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TS,
Busted,Yes.....  But we don't know if he won that election yet,he didn't remove himself from it as far as I've read...........
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SF is a calling and it requires commitment and dedication that the uninitiated will never understand......
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07-12-2009, 11:00
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Originally Posted by greenberetTFS
TS,
Busted,Yes.....  But we don't know if he won that election yet,he didn't remove himself from it as far as I've read...........
Big Teddy 
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It's Nov 3
"Qualifying Dates: Monday, July 6, 2009 12:00 Noon
Through Friday, July 10, 2009, 12:00 Noon
The primary election date is : Tuesday, September 15, 2009
The general election date is : Tuesday, November 3, 2009"
http://www.cityftmyers.com/Governmen...3/Default.aspx
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07-12-2009, 13:26
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vote2009
vote2009 wrote
"One other thing, has another candidate running for mayor served their country in any capacity?
That is a very good question and the answer is Randy Henderson has never served his nation in uniform. Interesting a candidate who has never served two minutes in the military can now question the patriotism and military service of the veteran. How shameful!"
vote2009 is beating the drum for Gardner.
Ladies who read this I mean no disrespect - vote2009 is posting like a girl in love.
And vote2009 it ain't Mr Henderson who has a question about Mr Gardner's service it's us. When you see him ask him how he got an early out at 16 months. Ask him why his public service record shows no service with a Special Forces uint other than the Schools Battalion. Ask him why at release from active duty he was a PFC. I don't know of any one term SF guys who got out in the 80s getting out as a PFC. Guys who POed their Team Sergeants still got out as Corporals. Most got out as Sergeants.
I'd vote for an honest man over a liar anyday - then again they are all polititions. Oh, well, forget that.
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07-12-2009, 14:40
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FWIW - I gave them my $.02 on this guy after reading Vote 2009's comments.
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I was a Special Forces NCO and Officer, now retired, who is familiar with Fort Myers as my in-laws lived there for many years. I ran across the Derrell Gardner web-site a couple of weeks ago and, out of curiousity, sent him an e-mail asking what SF units he served in. I have seen Mr Gardner's FOIA service record which is posted on the PS.Com web-site. His actual record does not match the alluded to claims he makes in the bio on his web-site - which makes him untrustworthy in my book. The common term for such a person in our parlance is 'wannabe'. You may vote for whomever you wish because this is - after all - your community and America, but I would never vote for someone who makes such allusions to being or having done something he has not. MOO - and YMMV - but there are far too many of that ilk already in public office as it is, and I personally think Fort Myers deserves better leaders than someone of his character.
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“Almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so.” - Robert Heinlein
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07-12-2009, 17:29
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Originally Posted by Pete
So who will be first to register on PS.com?
Gardner with an explaination or his lawyer with threats?
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Bring it on, loser!
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07-12-2009, 17:50
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Bring it on, loser!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5puAN1PGQw
He won't know what hit him.  Warren probably had guys like us in mind when he wrote this.
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07-12-2009, 18:17
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Sunday NewsPress Article
Here is the link to the article in todays Fort Myers Florida NewsPress:
http://search.news-press.com/sp?skin...2F2009&author=
Looks like Mr. Gardner has more going on in his life besides being an
SF poser.
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07-12-2009, 19:15
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Actually - we have now become part of their story! One thing is for sure - we are not being solicited by anyone to do anything.
From their "Comments" section in the news paper ( http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs....#pluckcomments )we have:
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tenctsmin wrote: (thier guy, not ours)
I must admit this story confuses and leaves one befuddled. Anyone interested can go to:http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...d.php?p=273232 this is a website devoted to keeping military personnel past and present, in contact, through fellowship. I don't know whether this organization picked up on Mr.Gardner's run for mayor, and seeing his military past, was considering supporting his candidacy. They are a very discerning group, and also very proud. I believe they either checked out the record of Mr. Gardner or were somehow solicited to help an investigative reporter. If you read the various entries on the website, you will clearly see, that PS wanted to interview (Mr. G) They knew this story was breaking today. If you violate a code of honor to PS you have a problem. These vets help raise money and are very involved in charitable activities. Whether there are any forms that must be completed by candidates that require full disclosure and perjury is a cause for removal?
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07-13-2009, 08:44
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Let me make one thing perfectly clear, ProfessionalSoldiers.com contacted the Ft Myers News-Press and Gabriella Souza concerning Derrell Douglas Gardner Jr Special Forces claims.
The way Derrell Douglas Gardner Jr wrote his bio on his website only a real Special Forces soldier would know Gardner was full of BS. I'm sure Derrell Douglas Gardner Jr was betting that his internet bio would not be read or questioned by a real "Green Beret".
As was said before, all this can be cleared up by Derrell Douglas Gardner Jr by simply producing his DD-214 to us or the Ft Myers News-Press.
We all know that ain't going to happen don't we Derrell....... Guess Derrell doesn't watch the "news", just type into a google search:
Atlantic city mayor Green Beret
Stupid is as stupid does.
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07-13-2009, 09:42
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Dust Up
Let's see. This dust up started last Thursday when the paper tried to ask Mr Gardner, his campaign and his lawyer some simple questions about his service.
It's Monday with no public reply from Mr Gardner, his campaign or his lawyer about his service.
I guess he figures this will all blow over - he can ride it out.
It was Ol' Frido who said "Bad news don't get better with age."
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